Hello Heywood,
I was told by the Grandchildren of John (Jnr) that he was the only one that moved to England. They do remember their parents (John Jnr's children) visiting "the family in Ireland", but that's all the information we have.
The Horan family match the details of my O'Hara family. I have done a search in the 1911 census using the address from the 1901 census and they are not listed. If it is my Ellen in the 1911 census, do you know if it was common to leave children at an Industrial School? I had never heard of this type of establishment. They seem to have dissappeared!
Marie