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Offline MaryThorn

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Tracing family from Ireland to the North East.
« on: Wednesday 29 July 15 19:40 BST (UK) »
I know my 4 x Great grandparents ended up in Blyth/Cowpen and from census returns I know they came from Ireland.  What I can't find is when they came to England from Ireland and from which part in Ireland they originated.  I've tried passenger and migration lists on Ancestry and Findmypast and can't find any record of them.  Has anyone successfully traced ancestors back to Ireland and how easy was it to find these records?

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Re: Tracing family from Ireland to the North East.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 20:02 BST (UK) »
Ireland was part of the U.K. so no records were kept of people travelling between Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales.
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Re: Tracing family from Ireland to the North East.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 20:12 BST (UK) »
When do you have them in the North East?

For instance I have some who came in the late 1880s, by looking at the birthplaces given on census returns I can see 'roughly' when they arrived (last one born in Ireland, first one to be born in England)
You are vey unlikely to find passenger lists as they were going from one part of the UK to another so those records either weren't kept or haven't survived.

Irish census returns 1901 and 1911 are online.

The National Library of Ireland have recently released images of RC parish records for free online, varies from county to county, but generally up to early 1880s .
http://registers.nli.ie


http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ have civil index records for free and 'some' counties parish records are searchable.

For more definitive advice I'd suggest asking about specifics in the Ireland boards.

Good luck with it, slowly buy surely more and more Irish records are becoming available, but (in my opinion) its not easy or straightforward.

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Re: Tracing family from Ireland to the North East.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 20:16 BST (UK) »
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You are vey unlikely to find passenger lists as they were going from one part of the UK to another so those records either weren't kept or haven't survived.

Ireland was part of the U.K. so no records were kept of people travelling between Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales.
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Re: Tracing family from Ireland to the North East.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 20:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that both of you.

My 3 x great grandmother was born circa 1835 and census returns just have her as Ireland.  Her son my 2 x great grandfather was born in 1856 and census returns have him down as being born in Scotland, although one return list his birth as Falkirk (not found it yet) laster siblings were born in the North East.  I suppose I nee to work through an awful lot of names to see if I can narrow them down.

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Re: Tracing family from Ireland to the North East.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 20:24 BST (UK) »
I would follow up on the Scottish birth- if he was actually born in 1855 then there's a tremendous amount of detail on the certificate- including date and place of parents' marriage which could provide a starting point for Irish searches.
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Re: Tracing family from Ireland to the North East.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 20:27 BST (UK) »
Hello!  One possible way of finding where in Ireland they were born is to find  MI (tombstones) for them.  Many of the Irish from that era were fiercely proud of their home parish and/or county and had that listed on their tombstones.  You may have some measure of success as an 1835 birth in Ireland indicates the family was present there for some part, at least, of the potato famine.  Good luck!  patrexjax
ARCHIBALD/ARCHBALD: Tweedmouth, NBL; CHARLTON: Ponteland, NBL;
ERRINGTON: West Denton, NBL; 
FAIRLESS: Longbenton, NBL;
HARDING: Hollinside, Co. Durham;
KING: Newcastle-on-Tyne & Berwickshire;
LOCKEY: Ryton, Whickham, Co. Durham & YKS; NICHOLSON: Ponteland, Newburn, NBL; PAXTON: Norham, NBL;
PAULIN: Berwickshire; REAY, Ponteland, NBL;
SCOTT: Norham, NBL; SELBY: Tweedmouth, NBL;
SLIGH: Berwickshire; SPOOR: Whickham & Ryton;
WIDDRINGTON: NBL

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Re: Tracing family from Ireland to the North East.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 20:31 BST (UK) »
I was hoping that the Scottish birth would help but so far looking at online records I can't find him despite the census saying Falkirk.

I'll look into the gravestones idea too, thanks for that tip.


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Re: Tracing family from Ireland to the North East.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 20:48 BST (UK) »
Scotland's People (pay per view) is the place to search for the Scottish borth.

You haven't given us any names yet so if you want to post the details you found so far we might be able to help you.
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