I have no idea Dean. My John was born Ceirchiog, Anglesey.
I did find an Owen Williams born Ceirchiog, Anglesey, on the 1851 census for Greenfield was well when I was in Wales last year.
Owen was 38 a bricklayer, living at 122 Ravenyard. He was married to Harriet 36 born Denbigh ( something) looked like C...drudion.
All I have to go on with John is he was living with his widowed mother Ann, 65, pauper..b Penlan, Anglesey. If I had a fathers name, I'd be in clover.
Going on for 3am here so better get some zzzzz's
Cheers, Tassie
