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Offline KiwiRose

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Re: Ballyeaston Presbyterian- Gardner, McAllister, Elliott
« Reply #18 on: Friday 09 August 19 22:56 BST (UK) »
Luckin fer Freens,
Regarding reply 17:

I am not sure if this is the sort of timeline you were looking for, but here goes.

Unfortunately Thomas John Clements was born before 1864 when the Irish civil registration system was introduced. However, Familysearch.org IGI has a submitted entry for Thomas John Clements’s birth in Headwood, Ballynure to James Clements and Elizabeth or Betty Agnew. As a submitted entry there is no guarantee as to the accuracy of the birth details.


When Thomas John married in Dec 1888 he was a carpenter of full age, and living in Headwood, Kilwaughter. His father was James Clements, a farmer.


There is a James Clements, likely to be Thomas’s father, who died in Headwood in Feb 1890. His will is on the Proni Wills site.  Only his executors are named: wife, Betty Clements and sons Andrew and Henry. James was 72yrs old, i.e. born c1818.

Elizabeth (Betty) Clements died 1908 in Headwood. She has two will entries on Proni, one of whom has Thomas John as executor. Elizabeth was aged 83yrs.

 This appears to be James and Elizabeth’s marriage below:

Name: James Clements
Spouse's Name: Eliza Agnew
Spouse's Birth Date: 1829
Spouse's Age: 21
Event Date: 18 Aug 1850
Event Place: Cairncastle, Ant, Ire
Father's Name: Andrew Clements
Spouse's Father's Name: John Agnew

Citing this Record
"Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898," database, FamilySearch

If this is indeed Thomas John’s parents’ marriage, then his grandfathers are Andrew Clements and John Agnew.

The David Agnew who married Eliza Elliott in 1866 was of full age (i.e. born before 1845), a blacksmith living in Ballynarry,Ballynure at the time of his marriage. James Agnew, a blacksmith, was his father. One witness was an Eliza Jane Agnew.

David’s probable father, James Agnew of Ballynarry, leaves a very informative will mentioning many members of his family in July 1864.

Kind regards,

KiwiRose.

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Re: Ballyeaston Presbyterian- Gardner, McAllister, Elliott
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 10:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much Kiwi Rose for sharing that information. :)
I agree with everything about James Clements. His father Andrew is a mystery though and I have now dismissed a direct connection to the Clements /Kirk family.
I will explore the John Agnew family for Betty's connections.
Whakawhetai LfF