Place Names and the Family Grieves

[Elamcc]

I have an ancestor named Thomas Grieves he was born in 1842 or 1844 (according to the 1881, 1891, 1901 census records) but the locations on the census records I cannot find and as an Aussie I have no idea if they exist or how to find where they might be.
On the 1881 census it says he was born Joully Point, Northumberland. On the 1891 census it says he was born in Wechley Point, Northumberland. I know that Thomas was a Blacksmith - this is on all the census records I have and hiss marriage certificate.
I have his father as being James Grieves a Labourer - on Thomas's marriage certificate in 1863 London.
I have found a Thomas Grieves born in Meldon 1842 with a father James, but in all the census records for this meldon Thomas - it has him as a agri labourer. HELP! I am so confused with this one

[chempat]

Have you checked the actual images as to the place names, and then done a google search on the variants?

Does your Thomas marry twice - Susan and Emma?

The Meldon Thomas is still in Northumberland whilst your Thomas is down in London e.g. the 1881 census yours in Bromley, the other in Bedlington.

Weebly?

[Kay99]

Not much help but I think this is the family in 1871 mistranscribed - the image is Grieves - Living in Willesborough, Kent

Thomas Gricius 29 Forgeman  Wittow Pt, Northumberland,
Susan Gricius 29
John M Gricius 6
Andrew C Gricius    2
 RG10 Piece 961 Folio 113 Page 41

Kay

[chempat]

List of points in Northumberland:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_headlands_of_the_United_Kingdom#Northumberland

[chempat]

Could Joully be a complete mis-pronunciation of Guile?

[Millmoor]

Hi

1881 and 1891 censuses suggest he married twice as Chempat has pointed out.

1886 marriage in Bromley April 26 Thomas Grieves 44 Forgeman widower father James Grieves ship steward to Emma Margaret Nelson 40 widow father William Hillson? butcher.

William

[Elamcc]

Chempat - yes my Thomas did marry Susan and Emma - Susan died in 1884. He married Emma in 1886. Thank you for those points of Northumberland I'll check those out.
Kay99 - that is actually really helpful, I hadn't been able to find them for 1871.

[Kay99]

Just a thought - Given the occupation of James on Thomas's second marriage cert - I wonder whether Thomas was born at sea???

Kay

[Millmoor]

I wondered about that too, Kay.

If I have located the correct census entry for Thomas in 1901 he is recorded as Thomas Greaves and is living in Poplar with son John and daughter Alice, her husband Albert and grandson William. Here his pace of birth is given as Jarrow.

Even though the 1901 census states Thomas is a widower there does appear to be a census entry for wife Emma living in East Ham with daughter Isabel. She is 60 and living on her own means. In the condition as to marriage column it says married but, and I have not come across this before, in smaller writing separated has been added.

We are not allowed to give look ups for the 1911 census but I would suggest that you look for Thomas  in the 1911 census and see where it says his place of birth is there.

William