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Lost between Whittington/Swadlincote/London and Shalbourne
« on: Tuesday 07 July 15 20:06 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to all who answered my
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Where is Whittington/Whittington Moor
, but with no offence to the inhabitants - old, new, or moor - past or present, I was rather hoping it wasn't in Derbyshire!

What started as a minor headache, just became much bigger.

I have 2 young ladies both with the surname POCOCK. Ann Elizabeth Pocock born 1879 Swadlincote, (aka Annie Eliza) and Eliza Annie Pocock born 1879 Whittington.  Registration district for both - Chesterfield, but only 1 registration exists, Dec.Q 1879 7b 650.

I know Ann Elizabeth was illegitimate. Up to 1911 the Census'  list her birth at Swadlincote, when it suddenly changes to Shalbourne [Berks or Wilts reg. district -Hungerford], but I can find no record to tie in. [The family had moved from Shalbourne to Church Gresley/Swadlincote, but still had relatives in the Shalbourne area, so I appreciate it would be feasible for her to return there and then back to Derbyshire].

The thing I find odd is that the family of Eliza Ann Pocock, b. Whittington, were born and resided in London, and she appears to be the only member born outside, in Derbyshire.

Other than obtaining a copy of the certificate for the Chesterfield reg. is their any way I would be able to find which parents were on it?

I have tried Parish registers, for christenings etc, but they don't appear to list either family.

Any suggestions?

corndolly




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Re: Lost between Whittington/Swadlincote/London and Shalbourne
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 July 15 23:02 BST (UK) »
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Other than obtaining a copy of the certificate for the Chesterfield reg. is their any way I would be able to find which parents were on it?

No - birth cert info cannot be looked up by members of the public 
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Re: Lost between Whittington/Swadlincote/London and Shalbourne
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 July 15 23:18 BST (UK) »
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I know Ann Elizabeth was illegitimate.

1881 has an A Elizabeth Pocock aged 1 b Swadlincote living with Pocock grandparents Thomas & Sarah Pocock.  Swadlincote came under Burton on Trent Reg district but nothing on freebmd.  This couple also have a 1yr old daughter Emily whose birth is on freebmd

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3K3-31Y

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/burton%20upon%20trent.html

1881 Annie Pocock aged 1 b Whittington (RD = Chesterfield) youngest of 3 children of Thomas & Sarah Pocock so I would guess that the Dec 1879 birth reg is hers
 
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Re: Lost between Whittington/Swadlincote/London and Shalbourne
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 July 15 23:36 BST (UK) »
Freebmd has an 1884 marriage between Thomas Miller and Louisa Pocock

1891 for Rotherham - all b Swadlincote except Louisa


Thomas Miller 26 
Louisa 27 b River?? Berkshire
Annie E Miller   11 
John James   6
Richard  3
Jess Smith   29 boarder b Staffs
RG12 Piece 3847 Folio 20 Page 33

In 1871 - Thomas & Sarah Pocock - grandparents in the 1881 entry - are living in Berkshire and have an 8yr old dtr spelt Louiza

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFXV-2HJ
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Re: Lost between Whittington/Swadlincote/London and Shalbourne
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 July 15 00:37 BST (UK) »
Hi corndolly,

From FreeBMD:
Births Jun 1876, Pocock Annie Elizabeth, Newbury 2c 238.

Until 1895 a part of Shalbourne parish was in Berkshire, then transferred to Wiltshire. (but you knew that already, didn't you?)

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Re: Lost between Whittington/Swadlincote/London and Shalbourne
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 July 15 00:41 BST (UK) »
There is a Whittington, Staffordshire (close to Lichfield) which sometimes shows people in Burton on Trent. Haven't checked this out but you may find it ineresting. Brit
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Re: Lost between Whittington/Swadlincote/London and Shalbourne
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 July 15 08:30 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast have the transcript of Thomas and Louisa's marriage in Swadlincote - 22 September 1884:

Thomas is 21 and a Collier - father is James, also a Collier
Louisa is 21 - father is Thomas, a Labourer

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Re: Lost between Whittington/Swadlincote/London and Shalbourne
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 July 15 13:06 BST (UK) »
Ref Louisa's birthplace on 1891 Census

It is Rivar (which is near Shalbourne)
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Kirk London/Brum/Coventry/London 19c
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Syrett/Brewer/Cranwell London 19c
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Re: Lost between Whittington/Swadlincote/London and Shalbourne
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 July 15 16:15 BST (UK) »
Thank you all very much for your replies and info.  Sorry its taken so long to reply, got a little sidetracked with a query on my other halfs family tree.

They certainly got around more back then than I ever gave them credit for!

Will go and quietly digest all you have sent me; I'm sure my answer is there.

thanks again
corndolly
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Pocock - Berks,Wilts
Clarke - Berks
Enefer - Sussex, Essex
Driver - Surrey, Suffolk