Author Topic: John DONALD brother of Richard DONALD? -edit - John might really be Frederick...  (Read 3035 times)

Offline Jonquill

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 155
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John DONALD brother of Richard DONALD?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 06 July 15 16:58 BST (UK) »
Oh darn Jennifer, I think you are on to something, I checked the newspapers again and Richard was back in court the week after for not paying the cabby who drove his brother to the hospital and police station after the fight. Except this time the witness was called Frederick Donald. As far as I know he doesn't have a brother called Frederick either  >:(

Offline jennifer c

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,763
  • Latest bud on my family tree
    • View Profile
Re: John DONALD brother of Richard DONALD? -edit - might be wild goose chase....
« Reply #10 on: Monday 06 July 15 18:52 BST (UK) »
Does it say the one attacked was john or Frederick?

Jennifer
Stevens /Godfrey /Rudgley /Claridge/ Gipson /George /Bliss
Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Jonquill

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 155
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John DONALD brother of Richard DONALD? -edit - might be wild goose chase....
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 July 15 00:49 BST (UK) »
West London Observer - Saturday 08 April 1871

A Disputed Cab Fare. - Richard Donald, the broker of the Bramley Road, was summoned for 4s., a cab fare. George Rowland Bryant, a cab driver, of 7, Southbrook Street, Hammersmith, said that on the night of the 25th ult. he was passing by the Richmond Hotel, Brook Green Road, when the defendant hired him to take his brother to the hospital. He drove him and the defendant. He waited at the hospital about half an hour.
The defendant said he would appeal to the magistrate whether it would take half an hour to strap up a man's head.
Mr Ingam said he did know as he was not a doctor. (Laughter)
 The witness further said that he afterwards took them to the police station, where he waited more than half an hour. The time altogether was 1 1/2 hours, the distance was three quarters of a mile.
The defendant said he resisted payment on public grounds as is was a case of attempted extortion.
He called Frederick Donald, who denied that the cabman waited the time, but said he did not look at a clock.
Mr Ingham said that the cabman spoke very precise as to the time. He ordered the defendant to pay 4s and 5s costs.
The defendant asked for time to pay the money, but the magistrate told him to pay it at once.
The money was then paid.

---------------------------
It was in front of the same magistrate too. Richard was often in trouble with the law, in one article it describes him as the 'notorious' broker of Bramley Road, I wouldn't put it past him to make up a name for the 'brother'.

Offline Jonquill

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 155
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: John DONALD brother of Richard DONALD? -edit - might be wild goose chase....
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 07 July 15 02:44 BST (UK) »
Another assault - West London Observer - Saturday 13 May 1871

Frederick Donald an upholsterer of 78 Bramley Road Notting Hill was charged with assaulting Levi Shepherd....
Richard Donald was a witness.

I've found a Frederick Donald , upholsterer b 1840 in Camden Town in the 1871 census, so perhaps he is a real person after all.