John DONALD brother of Richard DONALD? -edit - John might really be Frederick...

[Jonquill]

I'm trying to find a John DONALD, in a newspaper article dated 01 April 1871 he charges someone with assault after claiming they kicked him in the head at a public house, one of the witnesses is his brother Richard DONALD. Richard is my great x? grandfather, but I have never encountered John before.
John is described as "an upholsterer, of 78 Bramley Road" (Kensington) this is Richard's address but John is not there in the 1871 census.
Richard was born about 1837 in the City of London, his parents are Richard Kent DONALD a smith b about 1813 in Marylebone and Mary MULLOGHNY b about 1815 Ireland. They married in 1837.
John is not with the family in 1851 or 1861 and I can't find them in 1841.

[ciderdrinker]

Good Afternoon
Could this be the family in 1841 ?
Sycamore Place St Pancras
Richard Donald 25 smith y
Sarah 20 y
George 2 y
Richard 5 y

They might have made a mistake with the wife's name.

Ciderdrinker

[Jonquill]

Thanks Ciderdrinker, except for Mary / Sarah it is tantalizingly similar to the family I am looking for, I'm not sure if they are the same people or not.

[avm228]

Have you an age and/or address for John from the newspaper report?  Given that the census was taken on 2 April 1871 he should be traceable - then you could get more info about him.

Sorry - I now see you've covered the address bit.  But does it give his age?

[Jonquill]

No avm, no age or other clues.

[Rosinish]

Hi,

This doesn't have much to go on but maybe the Registration District will help

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26G8-Z3H

Annie

[Rosinish]

Jonquill,

Still looking but found this:

Name William Thomas Donald
Baptism 4 Oct 1846
Father Richard Donald
Mother Mary Donald
Parish or Poor Law Union (St Marylebone)
Borough of Westminster (Parish Registers)

Annie

[Jonquill]

Thanks Annie, although my Richard and Mary have a son called William there is also a very similar Richard and Mary Donald that also have one. They catch me out all the time, but my Richard  is a smith and the other guy is wood turner or a chair maker. And that William Thomas belongs to the wood turner.

[jennifer c]

Perhaps the name John was mis-quoted in the paper, is there another account in another paper or any court records for the case?
Jennifer