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Re: Marriage James Beggs Robinson, bet. 1901-1911
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 10:34 BST (UK) »
What you've posted is incomplete (and difficult to follow). Mary Robinson says in 1911 census that she had 10 children but only 3 living (the number born is correct but not those alive)-

James Robinson m.(1872) Mary Lawson Beggs (c1853), dau. of _ Beggs & Margaret Boyd
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Ballyclare_Rural/Coggrey_Town/108952
1.   Thomas Robinson (2 May 1873-25 Feb.1957) m.(12 July 1904) Sarah Service
        Birth: Thomas Robinson (2 May 1873) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F567-7VM
        1911 (Sarah) www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Ballyclare_Rural/Doagh_Mills_Town/109089
        1911 (James & Jane) http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Kilbride/Walkmill/110363
        1911 (Thomas ?) http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Ballyclare_Rural/Ballyeaston/108831
        a.   Jane Robinson (13 July 1904)
        b.   James Robinson (13 Apr.1906)
        c.   Thomasina Robinson (17 June 1907) m. Harold Henshaw
2.   James Beggs Robinson (27 July 1874-dy)
        Birth: James Beggs Robinson (27 July 1874) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPS5-VMZ
3.   Henry Robinson (1 May 1876-10 Mar.1883).
        Birth: Henry (1 May 1876) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRQ9-CYF
        Note: brother Henry born day after he died.
4.   James Beggs Robinson (8 Oct. 1878-c1960), carpenter, m.(9 Dec.1910) Isabella “Bella” Burns (d.c1958)
        Birth: Beggs Robinson (8 Oct.1878)
        a.   Sarah Robinson (12 May 1912)
        b.   Eileen Robinson (16 May 1916)
        c.   Margaret Caroline Robinson (4 Mar.1918)- family
        d.   Henry Robinson
        e.   William “Willie” Robinson
        f.   May Robinson
5.   Son (17 Sept.1880)
        Birth: Son (17 Sept.1880) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGKW-QZ6
6.   Henry Robinson (11 Mar. 1883) m.(1909 Canada) Martha Alice Montgomery
        Birth: Henry (11 Mar.1883)
7.   Jane/Jennie Robinson (25 May 1885) m.(29 Aug.1913) Robert Burns
        a.   Herbert Burns (13 Oct.1913-24 Aug.1915)
        b.   William Burns (d.aft.1962)
8.   Daughter (19 Feb.1888)
9.   Susan Beggs Robinson (8 Apr.1890-28 May 1890)
10.   William Robinson (2 July 1891-aft.1911)
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Re: Marriage James Beggs Robinson, bet. 1901-1911
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 11:07 BST (UK) »
Added-

Henry Robinson death registration confirms birthdate, place & parents-
   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLBJ-VBF

Year of birth slightly off for marriage registration-
   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JD8G-6MG

1911 census- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV9P-TRWC
   see www.automatedgenealogy.com for complete record

Martha Alice Robinson's death- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLTR-NNB
Marriage for daughter Sheila- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JD86-4L6
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Re: Marriage James Beggs Robinson, bet. 1901-1911
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 09 August 16 17:44 BST (UK) »
The son born Sept 17, 1880 was Samuel Carson Robinson in the Parish of Kilbride and he died Feb 12, 1882 in Owensland.
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Re: Marriage James Beggs Robinson, bet. 1901-1911
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 10 August 16 02:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your input, aghadowey.  I looked over what I had put and what you wrote, and there really wasn't that much of a difference except that I had omitted Susan.  My main interest in this family concerns the Service (Servis) connection as it may tie in with my McCauley ancestors.  If that is the case, I would say that it is likely that this branch of the Robinsons will also be somehow connected to my Robinsons of Ballyalbana and Ballycor.  I am still working on finding the connections which has proved to be time consuming.  Once again, thanks for all researchers input and output.


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Re: Marriage James Beggs Robinson, bet. 1901-1911
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 10 August 16 08:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your input, aghadowey.  I looked over what I had put and what you wrote, and there really wasn't that much of a difference except that I had omitted Susan.  ...
It seems as though you didn't read carefully enough  :-\ but to make it clearer here's a comparision of the children you posted with details I added in red-

Thomas Robinson, b. abt. 1876; m. 1904 to Sarah Service, dau of William Service.
1.   Thomas Robinson (2 May 1873-25 Feb.1957) m.(12 July 1904) Sarah Service

2.   James Beggs Robinson (27 July 1874-dy)

3.   Henry Robinson (1 May 1876-10 Mar.1883).

James Beggs Robinson, b. abt. 1880; died around 1960; m. 1910 to Isabella (Bella) Burns
4.   James Beggs Robinson (8 Oct. 1878-c1960), carpenter, m.(9 Dec.1910) Isabella “Bella” Burns (d.c1958)

5.   Son (17 Sept.1880)- Peggy supplied his name in later post

Henry (Harry) Robinson, b. abt. 1883; m. 1909 Martha Alice Montgomery of Rashee; married in Canada
6.   Henry Robinson (11 Mar. 1883) m.(1909 Canada) Martha Alice Montgomery- more details posted later

Jane (Jennie) Robinson, b. abt. 1886; m. Robert Burns
7.   Jane/Jennie Robinson (25 May 1885) m.(29 Aug.1913) Robert Burns

8.   Daughter (19 Feb.1888)

9.   Susan Beggs Robinson (8 Apr.1890-28 May 1890)

William Robinson, b. abt. 1891
10.   William Robinson (2 July 1891-aft.1911)

So, as well as giving 4 more children besides Susan that were not in your list I have given birthdates, etc.
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Re: Marriage James Beggs Robinson, bet. 1901-1911
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 10 August 16 08:47 BST (UK) »
Aghadowery, no, I read your response carefully enough; it is that I usually don't bother much with children who died young or with adults who died unmarried.  Dead lines don't offer much value to basic family research.  I also just usually just go for the year an event happened and cut the day and month.  Sorry for my lack of exactness, but.....

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Re: Marriage James Beggs Robinson, bet. 1901-1911
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 10 August 16 09:02 BST (UK) »
I've never heard of someone researching their family who leaves out 'children who died young or with adults who died unmarried'  ::)

Added- just to emphasise the importance of full details take these 2 sons-
2.   James Beggs Robinson (27 July 1874-dy)
4.   James Beggs Robinson (8 Oct. 1878)

Eldest registered as James Beggs but younger as Beggs although he later went by James Beggs. It would be easy enough to find the earlier birth and assume it was for the surviving child.

Ignoring exact dates also omits details which might go unnoticed such as-
3.   Henry Robinson (1 May 1876-10 Mar.1883).
        Birth: Henry (1 May 1876) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRQ9-CYF
        Note: brother Henry born day after he died.
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Re: Marriage James Beggs Robinson, bet. 1901-1911
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 10 August 16 12:45 BST (UK) »
Hello,
Looking at previous post, there is a first James Beggs Robinson born in 1874-dy. What does the dy mean? Obviously, he died before the second James Beggs Robinson was born.
Peggy
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Johnston - Co. Derry, Ireland
Groves - Co. Derry, Ireland

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Re: Marriage James Beggs Robinson, bet. 1901-1911
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 10 August 16 12:51 BST (UK) »
Hello,
Looking at previous post, there is a first James Beggs Robinson born in 1874-dy. What does the dy mean? Obviously, he died before the second James Beggs Robinson was born.
Peggy

dy= died young
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