Marriage James Beggs Robinson, bet. 1901-1911

[Peggy13]

James Beggs Robinson is on the 1911 census, as a carpenter, married, living with his mother and siblings.  There is a granddaughter Thomasina to Mary, his mother, but whose child is it? James is the only one in this household who is married. I found a marriage of a James B. Robinson on familysearch Oct-Dec 1910.  Is it him? Does anyone have further information on this marriage?  It is not on Emerald Ancestors. James' father was also James and his mother was Mary Lawson Beggs.
Thanks for any help
Peggy

[aghadowey]

Likely marriage is James Robinson (son of James) 9 Dec.1910 Newtownabbey district to Isabella Burns (daughter of William). You can view the certificate from GRONI to check grooms occupation, etc. to see if it's a match and if he signed his name James, James B, etc.

Here's a link to the 1911 census entry (please include this in your posts so that we can see the entry and to save us from searching for what you've already found)-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Ballyclare_Rural/Coggrey_Town/108952

Likely match for Thomasina-
Thomasina Robinson born 17 June 1907 Antrim district (mother- Service)
Which seems to match with this marriage-
Sarah Service (daughter of William) 12 July 1904 Antrim district Thomas Robinson (son of James)

[Peggy13]

Hi Aghadowey,
You did find the correct James Robinson marriage, due to checking occupation, and parentage and area of marriage. 
As for the census, I find it curious that James is there, but not his wife. Thomasena is there but not her parents although that is not as curious. But I couldn't find the parents elsewhere or James' wife.
I paid for the death of Thomas and it was the correct person. He is married so Sarah died after him, which was Feb 25, 1957. They had a son James as well as he was present at his father's death and a J. Robinson was present at Thomasena's death (she married Harold Henshaw).
thanks for your help
Peggy

[helenar]

Bella Robinson with Burns parents 1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Ballyclare_Rural/Doagh_Mills_Town/109089/

[Peggy13]

That is a terrific find, helenar.  It even says married under one year which confirms marriage date found. Thank you
Peggy

[aghadowey]

Remember that the census only shows who was in a particular household on a particular night. It doesn't mean that James & his wife were living apart, Thomasina didn't live with her parents, etc.

I paid for the death of Thomas and it was the correct person. He is married so Sarah died after him, which was Feb 25, 1957.
The death certificate says Thomas was married at the time of his death but does it actually give his wife's full name? Sarah could have died earlier and Thomas remarried (possibly even to another Sarah).

[Peggy13]

Hi Aghadowey,
No, Thomas' death certificate does not give his wife's name. His son  James was present at death. I haven't found Thomas and Sarah in 1911 to see if James was born before then. As we know, Thomasena was with her grandmother.
Cheers
Peggy

[aghadowey]

Went to GRONI's database searching for children with parents Robinson (father) & Service (mother) and found something interesting.

Thomas Robsinson married 12 July 1904 Sarah Service- as posted earlier
Jane Robinson (13 July 1904 Antrim district)
James Robinson (13 Apr.1906 Antrim district)
Thomasina Robinson (17 June 1907 Antrim district)- as posted earlier

Thinking that Jane might be unconnected but James could be Thomas & Sarah's son, I checked 1911 census and found the Service family with 2 Robinson grandchildren- Jane & James!
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Kilbride/Walkmill/110363

still looking for Thomas & Sarah...

[aghadowey]

This Thomas Robinson a widower (which would explain the 3 children with relatives)- but census says 4 children with only 1 living-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Ballyclare_Rural/Ballyeaston/108831

Service family in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Kilbride/Village_of_Burnside/919138

Can't see Thomas & Sarah together or widowed/married Sarah on her own.

Off to check for Sarah's possible death... but couldn't find one.