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Offline teddygreen1

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« on: Friday 03 July 15 07:50 BST (UK) »
hi im am trying to find out if my 2nd great grand mother  sarah tranter is anyway related to or is the daughter of william tranter who invented tranter revolver. we thnk that she was born 1836 and lived in prices street in 1841 with william  and in 1858 she married abraham groutage . we can not find marriage certificate anywhere . can anyone help
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kath 

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« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 July 15 07:59 BST (UK) »
Marriage
Oct/Nov/Dec 1858
Birmingham
Ref 6d 195
Abraham Groutage and Sarah Tranter on same page

Cert can be ordered online from www.gro.gov.uk using the reference given.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: tranter
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 July 15 08:03 BST (UK) »
Kath,

According to England Select Marriages:
Abraham Groutage married Sarah Tranter on 14 Nov 1858 at St Peter, Dale End, Birmingham

Peter
Allen, Brown, West - Berkshire
Caesar, Dicker, Lamden, West - Hampshire
Hicks, Martin, Masters - Kent, Middlesex
Hancox/Hancock/Hancocke - Warwickshire
Gardner - Devon
Traylen - Essex & Jersey

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Re: tranter
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 July 15 08:12 BST (UK) »
thank you for your replies much appreciated
kath

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Re: tranter
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 July 15 13:08 BST (UK) »
Just to add the details
Abraham Groutage bach cooper Birmingham son of John cooper
Sarah Tranter spins Birmingham d of William Tranter jappaner
wit Thomas and Emma Henne(fsay)?

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Re: tranter
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 July 15 13:39 BST (UK) »
Kath, on the 1851 census it shows Sarah's father William as having been born in Liverpool, but on 1841 it says Warwickshire? but that is on the transcription and not shown on the census image so may be an assumption on someone's behalf. I've done a bit more looking and your William has actually a third place of birth! On the 1881 census he is with his wife Ann and Grand-daughter Sarah Ann Grolage (probably should be Groutage), he is still listed as a Japanner but this time is place of birth is Plymouth, Devon.
Tranter, Palmer, McAleese, Wallace, Bolton, Bowman

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Re: tranter
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 July 15 16:16 BST (UK) »
Yeah o know that's what's confusing ive got him as Plymouth too. Thanks kath

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 July 15 19:25 BST (UK) »
Quote from: teddygreen1 on Friday 03 July 15 16:16 BST (UK)
Yeah o know that's what's confusing ive got him as Plymouth too. Thanks kath

I have found a birth for a William Tranter born 27th January 1812, in Plymouth his parents are Joseph and Ann, but I can't find any for him in Warwickshire or Liverpool around when he would have been born. I also checked Shropshire(where the gun makers family are from) as you wondered if Sarah was related to William Tranter the gunmaker and there are a few William Tranter's born between 1811 and 1813 but with no concrete details about your William it'd be hard to prove a connection.
http://www.firearmsmuseum.org.au/TranterHistory/wt_fam_fra.htm This is a link listing William Tranter the gun maker's family.
Tranter, Palmer, McAleese, Wallace, Bolton, Bowman

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 July 15 19:39 BST (UK) »
thank you so much for looking really appreciate what you have done and thanks again kath
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