John Jabez Roberts

[dhouston]

I have copies of attestations.
One of the sons mentions that his mother was Emma Pitt, Orlando's first wife.
Not all information is correct out there.
Alot of information is gathered online but not all of it's correct.
I've been researching since 2000 and have learned to stay open-minded.
I have found errors in books (one published by a Historical Society, regarding Emigrants to Manchester Settlement), online (easy to add information, much hard to correct), newspapers...
Thank you.

[dhouston]

The twins were a year older than what they thought. They celebrated their birthday on the same day but Thomas Earl was 25 days older. Henry pim was Henry Harold when he married Elizabeth alpe. He mentioned that he was born Melbourne not Ballarat West. Mentions his mother was Mary durie not caulfield. Thanks for the replies.   Covers most of the information I have regarding John. I Have information from electoral rolls and johns funeral records if anyone wants to share information. Thanks Rootschat.

[sparrett]

The twins were a year older than what they thought. They celebrated their birthday on the same day but Thomas Earl was 25 days older.

I am unsure about the foundation of your belief about the twins birth date and I am assuming the twins you refer to are Henry and Thomas Earl ROBERTS.
Here are the indexed births of the above children taken  from the Victorian index.
 
A copy of the certificates will give you more detail-

Name
Date
Place
Father's name
Father's occupation
Father's age
Father's birthplace
Mother's name
Maiden name
Mother's age
Mother's birthplace
Marriage date
Previous children

Births

ROBERTS Thomas  Earl
Father Edward
Mother Mary CAULFIELD
Birth Place BALL
Yea: 1865
Reg Number 19922

ROBERTS Henry
Father Edward
Mother Mary CAULFIELD
Birth Place BALL
Year 1865
Reg Number 19923

 
Please note the consecutive birth registration numbers mean the births were registered at the same time.One after the other.

Sue

[dhouston]

The twins were a year older than what they thought. They celebrated their birthday on the same day but Thomas Earl was 25 days older.

I am unsure about the foundation of your belief about the twins birth date and I am assuming the twins you refer to are Henry and Thomas Earl ROBERTS.
Here are the indexed births of the above children taken  from the Victorian index.
 
A copy of the certificates will give you more detail-

Name
Date
Place
Father's name
Father's occupation
Father's age
Father's birthplace
Mother's name
Maiden name
Mother's age
Mother's birthplace
Marriage date
Previous children

Births

ROBERTS Thomas  Earl
Father Edward
Mother Mary CAULFIELD
Birth Place BALL
Yea: 1865
Reg Number 19922

ROBERTS Henry
Father Edward
Mother Mary CAULFIELD
Birth Place BALL
Year 1865
Reg Number 19923

 
Please note the consecutive birth registration numbers mean the births were registered at the same time.One after the other.

Sue

I have their birth certificates. The births were registered 1865. The twins were 84 and 86 when they died. They celebrated their 83rd birthday when they turned 84. The birth certificates have the correct dates. All information after that from the twins indicates they were born 1866 and born the same day. That's incorrect. I love my family history, so many mysteries.

[sparrett]

I do not think there were any mysteries in this case.

Perhaps the twins were confused in their advancing years.

Sue


 

[minniehaha]

Further to reply #8, the Funeral Notice appeared in the 'Evening Post' dated 4.10.1897.

"...will leave the residence of his son-in-law, Mr. Winnie......."

An obituary to be found in the 'Wairarapa Daily Times', dated 5.10.1897.

Minniehaha.

[sparrett]

dhouston,

I wonder if you also have either or both of the twins death printouts and I wonder who was the informant for each.

Was it information from these which led you to think John Jabez, not Edward ROBERTS was their father?

Sue

[dhouston]

I do not think there were any mysteries in this case.

Perhaps the twins were confused in their advancing years.

Sue

No. When Henry Roberts married Elizabeth Alpe his marriage certificate mentions he was 24, he was 25. They didn't know their age.

[dhouston]

dhouston,

I wonder if you also have either or both of the twins death printouts and I wonder who was the informant for each.

Was it information from these which led you to think John Jabez, not Edward ROBERTS was their father.

It is my opinion that Edward was Johns known as Edward. How may nieces follow their uncle from Australia to New Zealand, live with them and pay for their uncles funeral?
Henry mentions his mother was Mary Durie not Caulfield. None of the snippets I have are 100% correct. Thomas and Henry died age 84 and 86. Celebrated their 83rd birthday on the same day when they were 84 and their birth certificates mention that Thomas was 25 days older.
The twins didn't know how old they were.


Sue