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Offline dhouston

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John Jabez Roberts
« on: Friday 03 July 15 04:22 BST (UK) »
Hello.
Does anyone have John Jabez Roberts in their family tree?
He was an invalid who resided Wairarapa 1880s and 90s.
He was father of Ellen Winnie, nee Roberts, Henry Pim Roberts and Thomas Earl Roberts.
Thank you.

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Re: John Jabez Roberts
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 July 15 04:38 BST (UK) »
Nope, not me.

Is there a particular aspect of this family you want some help on, or is it just a general enquiry?

Alan
Living in Christchurch, New Zealand.

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Re: John Jabez Roberts
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 July 15 06:52 BST (UK) »
His death
1897/5897   Roberts    John Jabez       70Y

Sons deaths
1952/22193   Roberts    Henry Pim       85Y
1949/30627   Roberts    Thomas Earl       83Y

Cheers Janette

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Re: John Jabez Roberts
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 July 15 04:25 BST (UK) »

Does anyone have John Jabez Roberts in their family tree?
He was an invalid who resided Wairarapa 1880s and 90s.
He was father of Ellen Winnie, nee Roberts, Henry Pim Roberts and Thomas Earl Roberts.
Thank you.

Hi dhouston

According to his death notice, John Jabez ROBERTS was the uncle (and not the father) of Ellen WINNIE, Henry ROBERTS and Thomas Earl ROBERTS.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz

"Evening Post" (Wellington) - 4 October 1897 - Deaths - Page 6

ROBERTS -   on 2 October 1897 at the residence of his niece, John Jabez ROBERTS, beloved uncle of  Mrs O. H. WINNIE and Thomas and Henry ROBERTS.    Aged 70 years   ... Masterton papers please copy.

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Re: John Jabez Roberts
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 July 15 04:31 BST (UK) »
The Probate file of John Jabez ROBERTS is able to be viewed at  the Familysearch.org website.

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1865481

..... John Jabez ROBERTS left his real and personal estate to Thomas Earl ROBERTS, baker, of Wellington and also appointed him Executor of his estate.   [His Will dated 29 September 1892, does not mention his relationship to Thomas Earl ROBERTS. ]

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Re: John Jabez Roberts
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 July 15 04:45 BST (UK) »
"Mrs O.H. WINNIE" appears to have been Ellen ROBERTS, who had numerous children with Orlando Hannibal (various spellings of this middle name) WINNIE.

Confirmation that Ellen WINNIE was born in Ballarat, Victoria, Australia, comes from the Attestation form on the WW1 Army record of her son, Percy Albert WINNIE.  [Source:   Archives New Zealand website, Archway]

Thomas Earl ROBERTS and Henry ROBERTS (both births registered 1865) and Ellen ROBERTS (1863) appear to be the children of Edward ROBERTS and Mary CAULFIELD - (births registered at Ballarat East, Victoria, Australia. )

As much information re:  ROBERTS and WINNIE families has already been given on the Australia Board, I won't repeat it here.    Will add links to those threads, next post.

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Re: John Jabez Roberts
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 July 15 04:57 BST (UK) »
Hi dhouston

Threads on Australia Board :

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=575178.0
[ROBERTS/SMITH :  Puzzle Pieces Missing. ]

Also >> click on the link provided by ~MERLIN~ in his Reply # 1.

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Re: John Jabez Roberts
« Reply #8 on: Monday 06 July 15 03:54 BST (UK) »
"Mrs O.H. WINNIE" appears to have been Ellen ROBERTS, who had numerous children with Orlando Hannibal (various spellings of this middle name) WINNIE.

Confirmation that Ellen WINNIE was born in Ballarat, Victoria, Australia, comes from the Attestation form on the WW1 Army record of her son, Percy Albert WINNIE.  [Source:   Archives New Zealand website, Archway]

Thomas Earl ROBERTS and Henry ROBERTS (both births registered 1865) and Ellen ROBERTS (1863) appear to be the children of Edward ROBERTS and Mary CAULFIELD - (births registered at Ballarat East, Victoria, Australia. )

As much information re:  ROBERTS and WINNIE families has already been given on the Australia Board, I won't repeat it here.    Will add links to those threads, next post.

  ~  Lu
 
Thanks Lu.
John's funeral notice mentions that he was Ellen's father.
He was a miner who resided Simmonds Reef Victoria.
I don't believe Edward was Ellen Roberts father.
Orlando Honeyball was Henry Simpson then Orlando Hannibal Winnie. Names changed all the time then for different reasons.
Thank for the information.