John Jabez Roberts

[sparrett]

I have listed, and highlighted, the consecutive registration numbers on the birth registrations of the twins within this thread.

I am afraid your family history research cannot progress if you are not able to "receive" new and correct information.  You do not have documentary evidence to support your ascertains.
A newspaper account of a birthday party is not the same as a certificate.

You are mistaken in your belief regarding the twins' birth.

Sue 

[majm]

The online index for NZ BDM has Thomas Earl ROBERTS as aged 83 years when he died (28 Oct) 1949.
That same online index has Henry Pim ROBERTS as aged 85 years when he died (27 May) 1952. 

Surely, this is simply because, like so many BDM admin systems around the world, the family history details are informant driven, and BDMs don't have the funding or the need to employ auditing clerks to validate each detail on the BDM.   The informant/s provided the age, as known to the informant.  The informant gives the information to the best of their knowledge.  So the family history information on a death registration is not first hand information.  I would place much greater reliance on the accuracy of the information given, first hand, on a birth certificate, than the information on a death certificate.

Cheers,  JM. 

[dhouston]

This is possibly the correct man in Ballarat 1869


Insolvency of Edward ROBERTS at Ballarat, moulder. Difficulties and reasons for insolvency include illness of self, wife, family

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/112891623

Sue

ADDING

Perhaps another child-

CORFIELD, Mary Ann
Mother Mary CORFIELD
Father -not listed
At Ball
1861
Reg 13492

My resource has the birth as COFIELD and the

Death
COFIELD Mary Anne
Father Edward  Mother Mary NOT STATED
1862 Ballarat  5 months Reg#184

Cando

Thank you. I had Caulfield and Durie as the mother's maiden name.

[sparrett]

Thank you. I had Caulfield and Durie as the mother's maiden name.
dhouston

Then you need to cross out DURIE because it is wrong.
The mother for both the twins was Mary CAULFIELD.
They both had the same mother and at the time of registration of the births, her name was CAULFIELD.

 Sue

[dhouston]

Thank you. I had Caulfield and Durie as the mother's maiden name.
dhouston

I wonder if Mary caulfield/corfield married a durie?
I have found an inwards passenger list for Mary cornfield, herald of the morning, liverpool to Victoria 1857 but she's born about 1829.
I have a passenger list for blue jacket arrived Victoria 1855. Its my closest match. John Roberts age 27 labourer, Edward Roberts moulder age 25, Frank Roberts age 24. I'm only guessing again. I descend from Ellen Roberts. None of her children were named Edward but one was Ernest John who died princess hotel Rhodes street Wellington. Another was Francis earl or Frank known as ponty.
Birth certificate for Ellen Roberts born 8 June 1863 Ballarat West states father Edward Roberts age 33 labourer born chester. Mother Mary was 32 born Roscommon Scotland which is Ireland.
Thomas Earl and henry were born 12 September 1865 Ballarat West the father was Edward Roberts age 36 labourer from Liverpool and Mary age 34 born Roscommon Ireland.
Liverpool is close to Chester.
I need to search 1841 and 51 census of Lancashire and Cheshire for this Roberts family and Mary cornfield. Thanks for the snippets. I keep them and try to triangulate information.


Then you need to cross out DURIE because it is wrong.
The mother for both the twins was Mary CAULFIELD.
They both had the same mother and at the time of registration of the births, her name was CAULFIELD.

 Sue

[Janette]

Hi dhouston,

Could you please stop writing your replies within the quotes as they are very difficult to follow,you need to write after the last quote in brackets

Cheers Janette

[sparrett]

Just to clarify so the thread is readable and it does not look as if I am saying things which I am not saying.

I wrote in Reply # 39
 
  Then you need to cross out DURIE because it is wrong.
The mother for both the twins was Mary CAULFIELD.
They both had the same mother and at the time of registration of the births, her name was CAULFIELD.

 Sue

You, dhouston wrote in reply#40

I wonder if Mary caulfield/corfield married a durie?
I have found an inwards passenger list for Mary cornfield, herald of the morning, liverpool to Victoria 1857 but she's born about 1829.
I have a passenger list for blue jacket arrived Victoria 1855. Its my closest match. John Roberts age 27 labourer, Edward Roberts moulder age 25, Frank Roberts age 24. I'm only guessing again. I descend from Ellen Roberts. None of her children were named Edward but one was Ernest John who died princess hotel Rhodes street Wellington. Another was Francis earl or Frank known as ponty.
Birth certificate for Ellen Roberts born 8 June 1863 Ballarat West states father Edward Roberts age 33 labourer born chester. Mother Mary was 32 born Roscommon Scotland which is Ireland.
Thomas Earl and henry were born 12 September 1865 Ballarat West the father was Edward Roberts age 36 labourer from Liverpool and Mary age 34 born Roscommon Ireland.
Liverpool is close to Chester.
I need to search 1841 and 51 census of Lancashire and Cheshire for this Roberts family and Mary cornfield. Thanks for the snippets. I keep them and try to triangulate information.



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[Janette]

Thanks Sue it was beginning to look like a dogs breakfast with all the confusing quotes etc

Cheers Janette

[sparrett]

Hello.
Does anyone have John Jabez Roberts in their family tree?
He was an invalid who resided Wairarapa 1880s and 90s.
He was father of Ellen Winnie, nee Roberts, Henry Pim Roberts and Thomas Earl Roberts.
Thank you.

dhouston,
So far nothing you have offered on this thread supports this assertion.

Sue