Thomas Chadwell .... missing !

[Lydart]

In response to Greensleeves, the marriage she mentions, in our parish registers, is of William ROSSER to Sarah Chadwell, 28th March 1799.     Then there is a baptism of 'issue !' on 25th December 1800 of William, child of William and Sarah Rosser. 

AND another of .... wait for it .... Thomas Chadwell Rosser baptised 9th December 1804 !!

[groom]

Reading that information, Lydart, I've just had an idea. Could it be that it isn't a Chadwell tomb, but a Rosser family one and he has just been inscribed using his forenames? He obviously isn't the one born 1804, but could he be his son?

Having said that, there still isn't a death that fits!

[Lydart]

Infuriating, isn't it !

But .... don't forget that names in Wales often have a P in front of the surname, short for 'ap' = 'son of', so for e.g. Robert becomes Probert, and Rosser becomes Prosser ....

Having said that, there still isn't a death in 1917 I can find for a Thomas Prosser, or a Chadwell Prosser ... maybe Groom can think around this !!

William and Sarah Rosser went on to have several more children, which I'll list shortly for sake of completeness.

[Lydart]

Children of William and Sarah (nee Chadwell) Rosser:

25/12/1800     William Rosser
26/12/1802      Ann Rosser
9/12/1804       Thomas Chadwell Rosser
11/1/1807       James Rosser
30/7/1809       Henry Rosser

Interesting that only the second born son had a second name added ..... I wonder why ?

 

[groom]

William Rosser is in Penallt in 1861 - a farmer of 103 acres. He has a wife Harriet and several children and grandchildren living with him.

 RG9; Piece: 3989; Folio: 98; Page: 5

According to a tree on Ancestry he died 23rd Nov 1863 aged 63 in Penallt. It might be worth seeing if you can find him in the Parish records and see if it says where he is buried in case it is the same family.
 

[groom]

According to an online tree, Sarah Chadwell was born 1768 in Penallt daughter of THOMAS CHADWELL and Elizabeth. Unfortunately they don't have anything more for Thomas Chadwell Rosser apart from his birth.

[osprey]

the NLW has a will for Thomas Chadwell of Penallt. It was written in 1792 & he died in 1797. A James Chadwell appeared at Llandaff to swear the signature was that of Thomas. Sarah was left the Padox, orchard & half the Padox Wood. Thomas was a farmer and had also owned a cider mill which the eldest son inherited.

http://cat.llgc.org.uk/cgi-bin/gw/chameleon?skin=profeb&lng=en

[groom]

That's interesting Osprey as I found a burial of a Thomas Chadwell 22nd February 1797 and possibly his wife Elizabeth 11th March 1815

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCT8-ZFB 

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCT8-F16

[osprey]

the indexing of the Wales parish records on FindMyPast is not to be relied on. Elizabeth's burial is indexed as Bishton, but if you look at the image it's Penallt. The one with Thomas' burial is an older style register with no parish name at top of the page. I've looked back a couple of pages and the top hasn't been scanned on the page that might have parish name.