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Isabella Chalmers from Scotland to Canada in 1916
« on: Wednesday 01 July 15 07:30 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

I have a shipping manifest for 'Athenia' departing Glasgow 29 Aug 1916 with Isabella Chalmers aged 45 and 3 daughters, Christina aged 11, Agnes aged 9 and Mary aged 7.  Her destination was Sault Ste Marie and she was to join her sons, George and Robt Chalmers and possibly a daughter Isabella.  There is a record of their arrival but its very difficult to read. 

My question is what happened to them all after their arrival?  I have already done some work on son George who lived and died in Sault Ste Marie.

 http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=722348.0

I found the son Robt arriving Quebec 18 Sep 1912 on board 'Cassandra' also bound for Sault Ste Marie but I don't know what happened to him either. George and his wife Elizabeth arrived in November of the same year.

A possible complication is that the 3 daughters travelling with Isabella Chalmers (nee Paterson) were born to her second husband, Matthew Roy.  After he died in 1910 she and the children appear on the 1911 Scottish census as Roy but she seems to have reverted to Chalmers (her first husband's name) thereafter.

Is it possible to find them on a Canadian census?  They all had a rough start back in Scotland and I wondered if life got any better for them in Canada.

Regards, Sage.   



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Re: Isabella Chalmers from Scotland to Canada in 1916
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 08:09 BST (UK) »
Just thought to check the C'wlth War Graves records and located Robt Chalmers died 08 Aug 1918 aged 24, Canadian Machine Gun Corps 4th Btn.
NOK Mrs Isabella Roy of 2007 Brush St, Detroit, Michigan

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Re: Isabella Chalmers from Scotland to Canada in 1916
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 08:16 BST (UK) »
1916 and 1921 canadian census appear on anc....  i had a bit of a look at 1916.....

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Re: Isabella Chalmers from Scotland to Canada in 1916
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 09:49 BST (UK) »
Hi again Sage Isabella Christine and Mary border crossings from Canada to USA 1920 then 1922
Mary Roy b 1908 Scotland married 20/2/1924 Detroit Michigan age 16 years
Father Mathew mother Isabella Patterson
Spouse Nicholas Mirotsos age 26 b Greece
This marriage did not last long the couple were divorced 25/1/1929
Extreme Cruelty
Isabella was using the name Roy on the border crossings


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Re: Isabella Chalmers from Scotland to Canada in 1916
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 10:06 BST (UK) »
Marriage for Christina Roy transcribed as Ray b Scotland age 16 father Mathew mother Isabella Patterson
Spouse Thomas Aniss age 26 b Greece 13/2/1922 Detroit Michigan

Second marriage  29/7/1944 Detroit Wayne
Christina Anis
............Roy b 1906 Scotland age 38 father Mathew mother Isabella Patterson
Spouse Franklin G Johnson age 52
You will probably find some records on family search
Need to go out now I'm sure Shelley or Sandra will be along to help
Rosie

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Re: Isabella Chalmers from Scotland to Canada in 1916
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 10:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Fastfusion...thanks for that.  I don't have an ancestry subscription at the moment but if anyone finds anything of note I can follow up on it at a later date.

Rosie thanks for your help...interesting that both girls took up with Greek men!  So sad for Mary that she was mistreated...she deserved better after such a rough start back in Scotland.  :'(

I will see if I can find anything else on familysearch.  Thanks so much.

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Re: Isabella Chalmers from Scotland to Canada in 1916
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 13:56 BST (UK) »
Hi,

There is a marriage in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario May 31, 1919.
Isabella Roy age 18, b. Scotland, housekeeper, parents Matthew Roy and Isabella Patterson
to
Mike Crullo age 23, b. Russia, mechanic, parents Frederick Crullo and Eve Kanoratenko
Witnesses Tom Tereschuk and Agnes Hodgson both of Sault St. Marie, Ontario

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Re: Isabella Chalmers from Scotland to Canada in 1916
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 14:04 BST (UK) »
Hi,

1930 census Detroit, Michigan
Crullo, Michael F. age 34, b. Russia, shipping clerk, injectors
Crullo, Isabelle, age 29, b. Scotland
Crullo, Gloria, age 10, b. Michigan
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X796-J9D

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Re: Isabella Chalmers from Scotland to Canada in 1916
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 01 July 15 15:36 BST (UK) »
Hi,

There is a marriage in Detroit, Michigan, September 21, 1921
Agnes Roy, age 18, b. Scotland, factory worker, parents Mathew Roy and Isabel Patterson
to
Harry Metros, age 26, b. Greece, cook, parents George Metros and Katherine Manos
Witnesses Isabella Crullo and James G. Tunales both of Detroit.

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