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Re: philip hugh barbour milner crockett
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 13 September 15 11:42 BST (UK) »
Going by the date of the marriage (November 1914) marriage to a Brtitish citizen (especially one with Press connections) would have probably made it easier for Natalia to leave Russia. The fact that she continued her career and there doesn't seem to be any sightings (yet) of her and Philip together, it's possible that the marriage didn't last long.
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Re: philip hugh barbour milner crockett
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 13 November 16 17:48 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for all the above replies.
I'm writing on behalf of Mikhalis who started this thread.
Today she found an obituary in the Scotsman dated 5th May 1940 on FindMyPast for Philip Milner Crockett who died 4th March 1940 age 48 in Mukden Manchukno, a puppet state of Japan but actually in China.
Mikhalis would like to know if anyone can help as to why he would be in Manchukno in 1940?  Would he be reporting on something happening there at the time?  What did he die of?  Was his body repatriated to Scotland?
She's not been able to discover any more than the obituary so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
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Re: philip hugh barbour milner crockett
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 13 November 16 18:53 GMT (UK) »
Think it's Manchukuo. Google 'Manchukuo 1940' for ideas and old pictures.
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Re: philip hugh barbour milner crockett
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 13 November 16 20:07 GMT (UK) »
http://cisupa.proquest.com/ksc_assets/catalog/11030.pdf
 - this refers to an arrest of Mr P. M. Crockett in 1924 by Bolshevik soldiers in Manchuli (now Manzhouli).

The reference is to part of FO 371/10260 in the National Archives.
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Re: philip hugh barbour milner crockett
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 13 November 16 21:21 GMT (UK) »
Philip is back in the UK in 1915 as he writes a letter to the Times from the National Liberal Club, London regarding the Russian public's opinion of WWI

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Re: philip hugh barbour milner crockett
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 13 November 16 23:14 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all so much for your replies and help.
jorose, gosh that's great information, I spent a good hour going through every page.  I wonder now what happened to him during the time he was arrested by the Bolsheviks and 1940. 
aghadowe, I'll do that - another late night!
Mabel, thank you very much that's also very useful and interesting information.

Many thanks for all your help.
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Re: philip hugh barbour milner crockett
« Reply #15 on: Monday 14 November 16 13:24 GMT (UK) »
Hello
There's a foreign office Gro Consular marriage 1911-1915  for the couple in Russia Moscow 1326 so presumably you could order the marriage certificate from the GRO.
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Re: philip hugh barbour milner crockett
« Reply #16 on: Monday 14 November 16 15:52 GMT (UK) »
Thank you ciderdrinker (person after my own heart!)
Mikhalis does have the marriage certificate and thanks to other RCs lots of information about Philip's wife.  What she is trying to find out is why he died in Manchuli in 1940 what of and was he buried there or was his body repatriated to Scotland in 1940.
As he was a reporter I'd have thought the Scotsman, who wrote his obituary  or whoever he was writing for would have the answer.  That possibility has only just this minute popped into my mind, that shows how rusty I have become at this after a few years abstinence - or is it too much cider?
I'll email Mikhalis to ask if she's thought of it.
Many thanks again for your kind help.
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Re: philip hugh barbour milner crockett
« Reply #17 on: Monday 14 November 16 19:25 GMT (UK) »
What she is trying to find out is why he died in Manchuli in 1940 what of and was he buried there or was his body repatriated to Scotland in 1940.

I would be surprised if it was repatriated, given it was wartime