I am a bit rubbish!

[Elaine Wraith]

Oh my goodness - how good you all are - I am now left with a few tears, I have never seen this information before, wow, I will look more at all you have given me, and if none of you mind contact you further for help. Wow, am so speechless, thank you so, so much !

[rosie99]

Hi Elaine

Just come back on this thread when you want more help with this family.

Rosie

[Elaine Wraith]

Hi Elaine

Just come back on this thread when you want more help with this family.

Rosie

Thanks Rosie, I think I need to put a post out there to see if anybody knows these people, I know I have family out there on the Whittle side.  Now I am getting on a bit, I would like to find some family 

[StanleysChesterton]

Did Gladys die on her first ever ride on a motorcycle?

Gladys Whittle, 17, of 104 Exeter Road, Nottingham, who died in the General Hospital on Sunday from injuries received in motor-cycling

July 1934

[Elaine Wraith]

Did Gladys die on her first ever ride on a motorcycle?

Gladys Whittle, 17, of 104 Exeter Road, Nottingham, who died in the General Hospital on Sunday from injuries received in motor-cycling

July 1934

I have no idea on this, i only knew my Grandfather had a sister we called Em.  Everybody died young, I was given this name by someone in an earlier post, how do I find out if this is a relative??

[LizzieL]

There is another newspaper article which mentions the inquest on Gladys's death and says her father was James Whittle.
The driver of the motorcycles which collided causing the death of Gladys were George Arthur Coles of Lincoln and Charles Richard Clifford of Nottingham. Although not clear from the article I think Gladys was a passenger on Clifford's motorcycle. Coles had been to Nottingham to fetch a man whose fiance lived in Lincoln.

[LizzieL]

There is a James Whittle who married a Gertrude Elizabeth Reed in 1898. Looking at 1901, he was around 19 and she around 18 when they married, so quite possible to have a child in 1917. They have a son Ernest who was 4 months old in 1901. Perhaps the Ernest who married in 1900 was a brother to James - names often run in families.

I think I have Ernest on 1881 census, b abt 1880 in Nottingham, parents Arthur and Mary Ann. I think Arthur is the son of James and Ann.
and James b abt 1879 Nottingham, parents John and Hannah. John looks like the son of John and Frances (1861 census)

This is just going by censuses so need some bmd data to confirm. But it looks as if there isn't a close relationship between James and Ernest.

[rosie99]

There is another newspaper article which mentions the inquest on Gladys's death and says her father was James Whittle.

Elaine
It is always best to confirm information with certificates.   
You know your grandparents were Lucy Hunt & Frank Whittle, we found their marriage in 1935 and it shows Frank as Frank W. Whittle. His death in 1969 giving his date of birth as 29th January 1913  leads to this birth registration -
Mar qtr 1913  - Frank W Whittle    (mmn Read) - Nottingham reg district    7b   719 

The period around 1911 is often a stumbling block.  It is easy to search on freebmd after this time as births give mothers maiden surname on the index.  Looking for a Whittle Read/Reed marriage gives two possible results but the index does not show who marries who until 1911.

Marriage Dec qtr 1898   
Gertrude Elizabeth REED       
James Whittle       
Nottingham    7b   491   

or the one I posted earlier
December qtr 1900 
Emily Louisa READ       
Ernest Whittle       
Nottingham reg dist    7b   596

Please note that Read is spelt differently. 

You mention Franks sister Em, she could be the Emily Louisa bn 1910.  She is not a daughter of James & Gertrude though. You would need to look at the 1911 census to see who her parents are. 

I think you really need Franks birth certificate before assuming anything. These possible siblings posted earlier I believe have different parents as Frank is the only one shown as Read, the girls are Reed.   
Frank b 1913
Edith A 1915
Gladys 1917



Rosie 

[Elaine Wraith]

Right then - firstly thank you ALL for this information.
It seems to me that some of these names need to be ignored as they are not gelling together, some I think could belong to me, the others not, I have got to try and weed out the right ones.  I have been given different names of his parents, arghhhh lol, too much information, overload!!!! Dont know what to do with it.