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Re: New Zealand BMDs General Enquiry
« Reply #63 on: Friday 03 July 15 15:00 BST (UK) »
Hi SignalHill,

Thank you so very much.

I had come to the same conclusion but it is SO reassuring that someone else thinks the same.

I wasn't sure about the final Registration place of the last child -- so just based my assumption on a 'balance of probability' basis --- the names of that last child 'Claribel Margory Hazel', being equally as 'fancy' as the names of the other children!

No simple, boring single names will do for these particular parents.

They really went to town on the naming didn't they --- it must have taken a full 9 months for them to decide which names to use for the expected child!

(I keep laughing about this.)

many thanks again

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Re: New Zealand BMDs General Enquiry
« Reply #64 on: Friday 03 July 15 20:31 BST (UK) »
Have you noticed the names got more "fancy" as the numbers increased  :o :o   :D :D :D :D

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Re: New Zealand BMDs General Enquiry
« Reply #65 on: Friday 03 July 15 21:07 BST (UK) »
I there from Hamilton NZ, did you say you wanted to know how he came here, had a quick look and do not think anyone has given you this but Family Search also do some passenger lists to NZ.     

 https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1609792

Hope that helps.

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Re: New Zealand BMDs General Enquiry
« Reply #66 on: Friday 03 July 15 23:19 BST (UK) »
On Otepopo

I have been sifting on Papers Past    http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz   looking for Otepopo + Palmer in Otago Newspapers
Here is one hit (with OCR mostly corrected)

        FROM OTEPOPO.

When the train moves out along the northern line
   From Otepopo far past Oamaru—
When the shadows deepen at the day's decline.
   We are thinking often, dearest one, of you.
 
There are sable pines upon the Double Hill.
   Ah, many lowly mounds are silent there!
When wind and rain the sable night doth fill,
   Our thoughts will turn to them with sole-run prayer.

There is gusty rain upon the bending gorse,
   The cattle shiver by the milking-shed;
Among the trees we hear the tempest's force:
   The little ones are lying snug abed.
 
When the train moves out along the northern line,
   When the tempest deepens at the shut of day,
We are often thinking, dear, of thee ar.d thine,
   Past Oamaru and Timaru, away

Beneath the rugged moun tains of the north,
   Where wintry tempest sweeps the sheeted hills.
The primrose by the path is peering forth,
   But loneliness the waiting spirit fills.

When, the train comes bravely in from Waimotu.
   When cheerful faces on the platform crowd.
We are thinking often, dearest one, of you,
   When the locomotive whistles shrill and loud.
 
The furze is fragrant now with golden bloom.
   The cattle munch the sprouting grass again;
Your bed is waiting in the little room.
   And, just as- they were left, your things remain;
 
And grandpa talks of little Poll at times,
   And little Elsie, far along the line;
When the engine slowly from the tunnel climbs
   You are often in your father's thoughts and mine.

      Charles Oscar Palmer.
source Otago Witness , Issue 2843, 9 September 1908, Page 69


Another Palmer ?

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Calvert Dobson Metcalfe;  Otago, Yorkshire
Johns Blewett;   Bendigo, Cornwall
Turnbull Hempseed Matheson;  Otago, Bendigo, Lothian
Butterfield;   NZ, Yorkshire
Brewer Tothill;   NZ, Gloucester London
Klee;   Canterbury, London, Hanover
Cutler;   Fordingbridge Hampshire
Hill ;  Taranaki
Gordon Dunn;   Otaki Wellington
Anderson;   Canterbury Tyrone


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Re: New Zealand BMDs General Enquiry
« Reply #67 on: Friday 03 July 15 23:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Pennines

Here is the death of the eldest daughter, sadly at age 15.
Oamaru Mail, Volume XXV, Issue 7720, 15 January 1900, Page 2   
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

DEATH.
Palmer.—At Otepopo, on the 14th instant,
   after a short illness, Ellen Jane, beloved
   daughter of Jessie and William Palmer,
   aged 15½ years, deeply regretted.
The funeral will leave the residence of
Wm. Kendall at 1 o'clock on Tuesday,
for the Otepopo Cemetery.   Friends are kindly
invited to attend.

- little did they know that we would find this invitation 115 years late and on opposite sides of the globe !
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Calvert Dobson Metcalfe;  Otago, Yorkshire
Johns Blewett;   Bendigo, Cornwall
Turnbull Hempseed Matheson;  Otago, Bendigo, Lothian
Butterfield;   NZ, Yorkshire
Brewer Tothill;   NZ, Gloucester London
Klee;   Canterbury, London, Hanover
Cutler;   Fordingbridge Hampshire
Hill ;  Taranaki
Gordon Dunn;   Otaki Wellington
Anderson;   Canterbury Tyrone

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Re: New Zealand BMDs General Enquiry
« Reply #68 on: Friday 03 July 15 23:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Pennines & Janette

  :o :o   :D :D :D :D

I wasn't sure about the final Registration place of the last child -- so just based my assumption on a 'balance of probability' basis --- the names of that last child 'Claribel Margory Hazel', being equally as 'fancy' as the names of the other children!

No simple, boring single names will do for these particular parents.

They really went to town on the naming didn't they --- it must have taken a full 9 months for them to decide which names to use for the expected child!

(I keep laughing about this.)

Pennines

Mary and Mabel (from an Anglican English backgound ?) were acquiring an education at Otepopo School (inspired by the Scottish ideals transplanted to Otago) which may have lifted the spirits and broadened the horizons of their Parents.   That was what many colonists hoped for.   Sadly it wasn't so successful for some of the boys.

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Calvert Dobson Metcalfe;  Otago, Yorkshire
Johns Blewett;   Bendigo, Cornwall
Turnbull Hempseed Matheson;  Otago, Bendigo, Lothian
Butterfield;   NZ, Yorkshire
Brewer Tothill;   NZ, Gloucester London
Klee;   Canterbury, London, Hanover
Cutler;   Fordingbridge Hampshire
Hill ;  Taranaki
Gordon Dunn;   Otaki Wellington
Anderson;   Canterbury Tyrone

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Re: New Zealand BMDs General Enquiry
« Reply #69 on: Saturday 04 July 15 10:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Janette, Bigcous and Signal,

Thank you -- do you know I have had so much fun on this NZ Board with these particular families.

Bigcous - many thanks for the Family Search Link to NZ immigration. At the moment I haven't found the families coming in -- but haven't searched thoroughly as yet.

Signal -- many thanks for the death notice you found -- and for the lovely poem and mention of Charles Oscar Palmer.

Although much of this correspondence has been about the Palmer family - I haven't researched them thoroughly yet. I am actually doing the Butler family -- and 'parking' wives with THEIR parents and siblings onto the Family Tree.

Mary McLaren Palmer was the wife of George Butler --- the person who later added 'Arthur' as a middle name - then understated his age by over 10 years from his marriage onwards!

Signal --- as far as Mary McLaren Palmer (and her 14 siblings) are concerned - their mother was from Scottish stock.

The Butlers also had an enormous family - George Butler seems to be one of 7 children and his father, Edward Fielder Butler was one of at least 12.

This is going to be a very wide tree!

I am sure you will all know this -- but it was new to me --- I found a really interesting website about emigration to New Zealand here;
http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/history-of-immigration

(You will all get a bit of peace now - I go on holiday to Ireland tomorrow for a week! Enjoy the Pennines free break!)

Thank you everyone for all the help, information and fun I have had so far.

Regards Pennines

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