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Re: The mysterious William
« Reply #90 on: Monday 29 June 15 17:46 BST (UK) »
I am curious - how do you know the marriage was not consummated or do you mean he did not have children
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Re: The mysterious William
« Reply #91 on: Monday 29 June 15 17:53 BST (UK) »
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: The mysterious William
« Reply #92 on: Monday 29 June 15 18:02 BST (UK) »
My family thought he was an unmarried man when he married Mary Alice (hearsay);

My relative (which whom we spoke last week) said "Yes, he was married, but never consummated" (hearsay too);

I can't find any children looking in FreeBMD so I suppose they simply separated, Maggie staying in Westmorland and William "going to work at Liverpool" (which again my relative said).

How would one find evidence of the whereabouts of William between 1897 (his first wedding) and 1947 (his second)?

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Re: The mysterious William
« Reply #93 on: Monday 29 June 15 18:13 BST (UK) »
Easton, Blackminster, Evesham WR11 7TD a 4 bedroomed bungalow in the old Station Railway yard

Would you know the exact address? Thanks!


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Re: The mysterious William
« Reply #94 on: Monday 29 June 15 18:24 BST (UK) »
Easton, Blackminster, Evesham WR11 7TD a 4 bedroomed bungalow in the old Station Railway yard

Would you know the exact address? Thanks!

That is the Address Easton is the name of the Bungalow

Scroll down the link, till you come to Easton, note:- all the other properties at that post code are named not numbered houses

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/home-values/blackminster/blackminster/

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Re: The mysterious William
« Reply #95 on: Monday 29 June 15 18:26 BST (UK) »

How would one find evidence of the whereabouts of William between 1897 (his first wedding) and 1947 (his second)?

You can look for him on census in 1901 & 1911. 
1921 census will not be released until 2021.
1939 registration is due to be released on FindMyPast in the near future
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Re: The mysterious William
« Reply #96 on: Monday 29 June 15 18:34 BST (UK) »
If you check the death registry and the will, you'll see it's spelt Douthwaite.

Don't look for another William...
Mary Alice Douthwaite was my great grandmother and she positively lived in 28 Engine Lane, Shafton.

Are you saying you are from the Lawton descendants of Mary Alice.

I wonder if Mary Alice buried William in her first husband Joseph Lawton's grave if it had room to cut funeral expense of William as she would be the grave owner.
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Re: The mysterious William Douthwaite
« Reply #97 on: Thursday 02 July 15 10:21 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone!

I had given up my search to find William Douthwaite's place of birth...
But today I thought I would give you all the chance to do some research and maybe someone will be lucky and finally solve the mystery.

All I know is this:
William Douthwaite married Mary Alice Lawton (nee Redfern) in SEP qtr. 1947 at Hemsworth district (2b 1728).

William died in DEC qtr. 1952 at Hemsworth district (2b 656), aged 82.

Supossing his age was correct then he would have been born in 1870...

More facts:
- For all I know, he had never married previously to 1947.
- My uncle thinks he was from Neston (near Liverpool).
- I was also told he had a house near Liverpool which Mary Alice inherited.
- Both Mary Alice and William Douthwaite were Jehovah's Witnesses.

Good luck and thank you all!!!

"The marriage certifcate 1947 confirms that the William you suggested and the words 'Neston' & (daddy) Richard that's are contained in or on the certificate confirm as the correct William but can not give out any more info because of copywrite.law "


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Re: The mysterious William Douthwaite
« Reply #98 on: Thursday 02 July 15 11:49 BST (UK) »
Great discovery!
On my part, I'm still waiting to receive the marriage and death certificates.
I guess there is no problem (when I get them) to post here the information contained?

Until then I still don't have a clear "picture" of William Douthwaite.
Was he from Westmorland or from Neston?
Was his first wife Maggie Jane Hindson?
Where was he living in 1901 and in 1911?
Was she living with him in those years?
Was his father's name Richard?
What was his mother's name?
Did he have any brothers or sisters?
 ???