The mysterious William Douthwaite

[LizzieL]

If you do buy the Certificate, get it from the GRO, not one of the commercial services, they will be more expensive

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Link to FAQs

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know.asp

[chr1st1an]

Thank you guys!!! 
I will let you know if I get the marriage certificate...
(please don't research any more on my behalf, you've done a tremendous work!)

[dobfarm]

Before I leave this thread, I still think William could have been a soldier from the old empire colonies or US after WW1 who stayed here or may have had relatives here, but born overseas himself or if say his dad was in India in the army or other jobs out there. ie; like Harry Webb's dad worked in India to help build railways, (Cliff Richard)

[ThrelfallYorky]

...and ... PLEASE LET US ALL KNOW, on here, if/when you get the certificate!

[dobfarm]

I forgot to say 28, Engine lane, Shafton  is the old railway house at the old 'Grimethorpe Halt' railway station,

[chr1st1an]

Hi guys! 

I have new and very interesting information about the mysterious William!!!...

I haven't the time now to explain all the details but I would recommend all of you who are interested to check this post this afternoon...

The mystery is close to being solved!!! 

[chr1st1an]

Hello and many thanks to all who have collaborated in this research; without you this mystery would never have been solved!

Do you remember there was only 2 William Douthwaite(s) left on my list?

They were: the Farmer (#10) and the Pipe fitter (#8)...

Rosie found out that the Pipe fitter from Redcar (Yorkshire) had emigrated to the United States of America in 1913 with his wife Hannah Mary Robinson, and had died there in 1940. (Congratulations Rosie!)

We were left with the Farmer; but he was an improbable candidate because he was married. Yet we could not place his death.

Well, it turns out the mysterious William Douthwaite was one of the two farmers born in Westmorland in 1871!

What I have found out this morning from one of my relatives is that he was a farmer, who did work at sometime in Liverpool where he purchased several properties, and that he did marry previously to 1947, but this marriage was never consummated (although he did support his first wife financially over the years).

A happy ending for a difficult research... 
Now I wonder... who was his mysterious first wife? 
Once again, thank you all!!!

[dobfarm]

Administration for William in 1953

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fh0/

http://www.jufs.co.uk/images/PROPERTY-PRICES-GRAPH.pdf

Assuming your right about your info as your William who had properties in Liverpool and was a farmer from Westmorland. Are you sure this William who married 1947 and died 1952 is the right death as your William. The William who died 1952 in Shafton left a administration of a modest £1360 being a value today of nearest rounded off at 25 to 1 -per pound = in todays value would be £34.000. A tidy sum but not exactly a life times savings, (maybe including common endowment policies, death policies) and owner of properties for the William of Liverpool bearing in mind his age and assuming mortgages paid off.  If the Liverpool/Westmorland William was the same William of the Shafton death 1952, he would surely have owned his home/house in Shafton near Barnsley aswell having least 2 properties with his Liverpool holding and expected to have left an estate value of about £3000 to £5000 minimum plus his Westmorland farming history attributed gain, in his working life time, being he had no family to bring up with expenses !! to dwindle his savings or inherited wealth.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/savings/9308562/Diamond-Jubilee-how-much-was-1-worth-in-1952.html

Summate does not seem to calculate out.

[rosie99]

I assume that this is the farmer born Casterton who married Maggie Jane that you have now claimed as your William. 

Interestingly Maggie Jane died in Westmorland in March qtr 1945 and left her own estate of £1824. 6s. 5d.

If it is your William he was very quick to move on from Westmorland, buy houses in Liverpool and married under two years after wife's death and presuming he inherited his wifes estate lost a lot of money   

It seems you still have a lot of facts to confirm.  As I and many others on here will tell you never believe what you are told by relations always find documentation to back it up. 

Rosie