Thank you for your reply, I'll take a look at that. I really don't remember any mention of an Uncle Herbert until I read my fathers letters from Burma, my father died when I was 10 but his other brothers remained in touch with us, my dad wrote that the RAF were just grand, masters of the skies, and said maybe our Herbert was in one of them, that's when I found we had another uncle so sent for his birth certificate. Thanks again for that information.