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Offline Mike in Cumbria

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Re: Gggrrrrrr!! Private Tree on Ancestry photos copied (Part 2)
« Reply #72 on: Tuesday 28 May 19 17:14 BST (UK) »
I'm not claiming any similarity or difference to Facebook or Instagram, so am not at all sure of the relevance of your point.  What are you trying to say?

I'm not sure either, but there is quite a difference between the two cases.

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Re: Gggrrrrrr!! Private Tree on Ancestry photos copied (Part 2)
« Reply #73 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 09:50 BST (UK) »
The past couple of days I've been thinking about this thread and comments on and contemplating if I need to give up my hobby and just delete my tree.  I know everyone will find this hard to beleive but it really distresses me when I upset people and I never set out to upset people.  It pains me that I manage to do so so often.


So keeping a private tree isn't an option as it has become apparent that this not just upsets people but makes them very angry. However just changing it to public isn't really an option either as that would upset the people I refer to in my post from a couple of days ago. These are people whom I know personally, some my whole life.

I haven't done it yet because I am selfish and it is my only hobby, I don't really go out unless it's for work, school run or messages.  I hope people appreciate how difficult it is to scrub 20 years of work.


I'd like to put forward one piece of defence, not to try and convince people I shouldn't delete my tree but maybe diffuse some of the ire towards me.  I can honestly say that of all my sources not oe of them is another ancestry tree. All my documents I have fall into one of the following categories: They were in my possession before I started researching, they were given to me (orscans of same) were given to me by people with whom I am in contact and who knew they'd be used for my tree or I sourced them myself from the local archives/GRO/GROS/NAS/TNA etc.  I have given copies of the documents and photos in my possession to family, have sourced documents for non-related people who live far fromthe archives I was visiting and I have taught others how to use the archives I am familiar with.


My sources are:


birth, death and marriage certificates.  I have been lucky in many ways that a significant proportion of my family are Scottish so I have easy access to these via NRH and they format makes cross referencing easier ie birth certs have parents date and place of marriage if applicable, marriage certs have mothers and fathers names and death certificates have spouse(s)where applicable aswell as both parents names.
parish records baptism, marriage and burial Scotland's People, NRH
census returns again many accessed via NRH
newspaper BDM announcements accessed via clippings already in possession, local archives and British Newspaper archive
newspapers articles that reference ancestors or events they were involved in acessed as above
probate calender entries Ancestry records collection not trees
wills mixture of Ancestry records collection and Scotland's People New Register house
monumental inscriptions and memorial plaques from visiting cemeteries, churches and Find a Grave.
Family bible in family possession
family letters in family possession and TNA
University records matricualtion and graduation, dissertations from individual University archives
HEIC staff records TNA
Burke's and debretts the local library
bookseg have an ancestor referred to in a book about Robert Burns referenced Harvard style in tree.Books about local history eg another ancestor was victim of a mining disaster
CWGC entries on their own site
WW1 medal cards and pension records accessed via Ancestry records collection


I think I may have missed something but hopefully it gives you the idea.
Campbell, Dunn, Dickson, Fell, Forest, Norie, Pratt, Somerville, Thompson, Tyler among others

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Re: Gggrrrrrr!! Private Tree on Ancestry photos copied (Part 2)
« Reply #74 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 10:05 BST (UK) »
What an enormous over-reaction!

I can't see a single post in this thread that has been directed at you.

Where is the "ire" that you talk about?

Who on earth has suggested that you delete your tree and give up your hobby? Absolutely nobody.

Why do you feel you need to "convince people" of anything or offer anything in your "defence"? Nobody has attacked or criticised you.



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Re: Gggrrrrrr!! Private Tree on Ancestry photos copied (Part 2)
« Reply #75 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 10:15 BST (UK) »
Please do not delete your tree - no one has any right to tell you what to do in terms of your own personal tree. You are not doing anything wrong by having a private tree, and you are not doing anything to upset others by having a private tree. It is the people who criticise others for they way they choose to carry out their hobby who are doing that.

And on purely practical grounds, there will still be many other people who have private trees, so the people who are silly enough to get angry about that will still get angry whether your particular tree is private or not, so you will have spoiled your own enjoyment for nothing.

What you could perhaps do is a compromise similar to what I have now done - although my main tree remains private (and will always do so) I have now created a much smaller public tree of one branch of my family, and am considering adding more similar trees. Instead of starting from myself, the tree starts from one of my great great ancestors, and I actually left out the line that leads to me. So I am sharing info, whilst avoiding any of the issues with close family who might be upset by anything posted (and everything on the tree was gathered from internet sources anyway, so I am not publishing any secrets that weren't "out there" already).
Howie (Riccarton Ayrshire)
McNeil/ McNeill (Argyll)
Main (Airdrie Lanarkshire)
Grant (Lanarkshire and Bo'ness)
More (Lanarkshire)
Ure (Polmont)
Colligan (Lanarkshire)
Drinnan (New Zealand)


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Re: Gggrrrrrr!! Private Tree on Ancestry photos copied (Part 2)
« Reply #76 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 11:30 BST (UK) »
No body said delete my tree it just seems the only way to not be upsetting people. Unfortunately just starting a tree with my get grts  doesn't solve my individual problem as some of the stuff family are adamant must not be public refers to my grt get and 3x grt grandparents. Hence me spending 2 days trying to work out how I can carry on without upsetting anyone.
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Re: Gggrrrrrr!! Private Tree on Ancestry photos copied (Part 2)
« Reply #77 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 11:50 BST (UK) »
What you're doing is absolutely fine.  I know that because I'm doing it the same way, as are many many others.  Don't stop!  (PM sent)

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Re: Gggrrrrrr!! Private Tree on Ancestry photos copied (Part 2)
« Reply #78 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 11:55 BST (UK) »
You can't please everyone all the time.

If people you don't even know, and who don't know you are stupid enough to get upset by the fact that your tree is private, that is THEIR problem not yours.

If the people you know who might be upset by your making your tree public are happy enough so long as you keep the tree private, then that is all that matters. You are able to continue your hobby, and no one you care about is upset.

I fully understand how you feel - on first reading SOME of the posts on this and other threads, my first reaction was to feel really bad that apparently I was doing everything wrong. Indeed, I felt so bad that I did delete some stuff from my above mentioned public tree and did not post anything on here for several weeks, but since I happen to be blessed with a certain natural arrogance, I soon realised I am not the one at fault - the busy bodies trying to tell me how to follow MY HOBBY are.
Howie (Riccarton Ayrshire)
McNeil/ McNeill (Argyll)
Main (Airdrie Lanarkshire)
Grant (Lanarkshire and Bo'ness)
More (Lanarkshire)
Ure (Polmont)
Colligan (Lanarkshire)
Drinnan (New Zealand)

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Re: Gggrrrrrr!! Private Tree on Ancestry photos copied (Part 2)
« Reply #79 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 15:47 BST (UK) »
Your Tree is YOUR tree - Your Hobby -- enjoy --- rest of world... go run


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Re: Gggrrrrrr!! Private Tree on Ancestry photos copied (Part 2)
« Reply #80 on: Wednesday 29 May 19 18:17 BST (UK) »
I would like to point out that the opening post on this thread begins "Thought this might amuse you …". Reply # begins "Ha ha!". Isn't this thread on 'The Lighter Side' ? In that case, lighten-up, everyone. There are real problems in the world. One's hobby should be a chance to switch off from them, not create new reasons for stress and fallings-out.  :) :)
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