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Can anyone tell the regiment please for Enos Fowler?
« on: Saturday 06 June 15 16:05 BST (UK) »
I am hopefully attaching two photos they are supposed to be of the same person. To me the uniforms look different. Can anyone tell from the hat perhaps what the regiment is and if they are the same.

With thanks.

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Re: Can anyone tell the regiment please for Enos Fowler?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 June 15 18:02 BST (UK) »
Possibly The Royal Engineers. Do you have a place of birth?

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CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Can anyone tell the regiment please for Enos Fowler?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 June 15 18:20 BST (UK) »
My son thinks it is the Bedfordshire regiment, have a look on Google images.
Incidentally we don't think the two photos are of the same men.
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Re: Can anyone tell the regiment please for Enos Fowler?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 June 15 18:32 BST (UK) »
In the top picture the man is wearing the Utility Uniform, no pleats in the pockets.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.


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Re: Can anyone tell the regiment please for Enos Fowler?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 June 15 18:36 BST (UK) »
He was born in York in 1856. He disappeared from the records from 1891 He had a son born 1881 of the same name maybe they are father and son. Does the photo give any clue to dates.  The son was on the census at the Aldershot military in Stanhope and Wellington Lines. Royal Army Medical corps depot. Could that be one of the photos?

Just seen second post Jebber. Sorry to be ignorant but what is a utility uniform?

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Re: Can anyone tell the regiment please for Enos Fowler?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 June 15 18:40 BST (UK) »
If you compare the two pictures you will see pleats in the pockets of the  man in the second picture, there are none in the uniform in the top picture. The utility uniform was to save on fabric, I think  came out in 1914, but I stand to be corrected on that.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Can anyone tell the regiment please for Enos Fowler?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 June 15 19:40 BST (UK) »
The Lanyard on one shoulder is a clue to specialism or trade of a soldier.

I suggest that you post the second photo on the WW1 section of the Forum,  and ask them  to tell you what the Lanyard means?

Then there is the leather bandolier,  probably for ammunition bullets, I guess.

Then the Cap badge, which I think has eight points to the star, by the looks of it.

You could try a goo***   search on military Cap badges, see if you can maqke a match.
 The only word of caution that I would add  is that sometimes  photographers  would have  an assortment of accessories  that they could lend  to men wanting to enhance the photos.  All may NOT be what it seems, sorry to say.

When my dad was in Edinburgh  in 1940,  He got a photo taken of himself in a traditional Scots soldier uniform.
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Re: Can anyone tell the regiment please for Enos Fowler?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 June 15 07:56 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for your help. Plenty of suggestions to take up.

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Re: Can anyone tell the regiment please for Enos Fowler?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 June 15 23:11 BST (UK) »
Good evening,

2nd pic is Bedfordshire regt, Cross pattee superimposed on 8 pointed star. Open centre with a stag in it, war time badge had solid centre with stag on it.

No means of identifying 1st pic.

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