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Offline Emma Hughes

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Re: Where is this place in Somerset?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 02 June 15 15:21 BST (UK) »
I think you are right. It is a big age gap but the 1861 census does seem to suggest the same gap. Does anyone know why all the entries on the census appear to have been crossed through with lines?
Bowering-Lympsham
Shewring/Hale-Corston
Lewis-Stanton Upon Arrow
Adams-Abergavenny
Brookman-Bristol
Hughes-Gwnnws
Bonnor-Gwnnws
Millward-Pen Tyrch
Roberts-Llancynfelyn
Morgan-Llantrisant
Hodgson-Westmorland
Thomas-Pontypridd
Kingwell/Dymond-Devon

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Re: Where is this place in Somerset?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 02 June 15 15:45 BST (UK) »
These are tally-marks rather than crossings out -- just the government statistician's way of marking the data that had to be collected.

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Re: Where is this place in Somerset?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 02 June 15 16:18 BST (UK) »
In case you haven't seen this ...

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Lympsham/
Eccles (Hoylake / Exeter / Plymouth)
Hicks (Devonport, Plymouth)
Grafton (Exeter, Devon)
Harris (Marazion, Cornwall)
Collard (Yeovil, Somerset)
Johns (Devonport, Plymouth)
Lyle (Bude, Cornwall)

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Re: Where is this place in Somerset?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 02 June 15 18:35 BST (UK) »
The entry in the 1851 census does start "Sc" - compare with "Scholar" on the same page - but it's always possible that a mistake was made at the time. The only George Bowering baptism in Somerset 1790-1837 appears to be the one at Lympsham in 1826. There is also only one George Bowering of the right age in Somerset in the 1841 census and he's at Loxton, only 3 miles from Lympsham. He's not in Somerset in 1851. So if the marriage certificate shows George's father was John I would think Lympsham's the place you want.

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Re: Where is this place in Somerset?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 02 June 15 19:37 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much, I'm going to order the marriage certificate now. I did find the one at Loxton. Can someone tell me, why when you know someone is in a place can you sometimes find no census record for them? Is it that not everyone filled it out, or that some aren't online?

Also could it not be the same person?
Bowering-Lympsham
Shewring/Hale-Corston
Lewis-Stanton Upon Arrow
Adams-Abergavenny
Brookman-Bristol
Hughes-Gwnnws
Bonnor-Gwnnws
Millward-Pen Tyrch
Roberts-Llancynfelyn
Morgan-Llantrisant
Hodgson-Westmorland
Thomas-Pontypridd
Kingwell/Dymond-Devon

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Re: Where is this place in Somerset?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 02 June 15 22:35 BST (UK) »
Mistakes happened at every stage. Someone may have been somewhere unexpected, missed out completely, or entered with a distorted name. They might have been entered correctly but the record has gone missing, or has been transcribed incorrectly.

As far as I know, all surviving Census records (1841-1911) have been transcribed and are available online. Some of the providers have missed bits here and there but between them they've probably covered all there is. If you can't find someone on the site you subscribe to, you can usually search on other sites without paying. You won't be able to see all the details but can usually see enough to tell if they have a record your site doesn't. Some records have not survived at all or are illegible to some extent. The best known is a large chunk of of the Manchester 1851 records which were damaged by flooding, but odd pages have been lost from all over. 

And yes, you can sometimes find someone with the right name in the right place and yet it's not the right person. Even if it's a very rare name, he or she could still be a cousin of the one you want.

If the person you can't find is George's putative father John in Lympsham in 1841, Ancestry has him as John Bown. The original entry was probably intended to be John Bower.

David

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Re: Where is this place in Somerset?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 02 June 15 23:19 BST (UK) »
The only George Bowering baptism in Somerset 1790-1837 appears to be the one at Lympsham in 1826.

Forgive me, but might it be wiser to say 'The only George Bowering baptism in Somerset 1790-1837 found online appears to be the one at Lympsham in 1826.'?

I'm no Somerset expert, but I'd be very surprised if there is comprehensive online coverage for the whole county?

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Re: Where is this place in Somerset?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 03 June 15 00:43 BST (UK) »

Forgive me, but might it be wiser to say 'The only George Bowering baptism in Somerset 1790-1837 found online appears to be the one at Lympsham in 1826.'?


That's why I wrote "appears to be".  :)

(FreeREG has considerable coverage for Somerset, but certainly not complete.)

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Re: Where is this place in Somerset?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 27 June 15 09:43 BST (UK) »
Update for those interested I got the marriage certificate and Georges father is listed as John who was a agricultural labourer which fits with the one from Lympsham. Thanks everyone who helped
Bowering-Lympsham
Shewring/Hale-Corston
Lewis-Stanton Upon Arrow
Adams-Abergavenny
Brookman-Bristol
Hughes-Gwnnws
Bonnor-Gwnnws
Millward-Pen Tyrch
Roberts-Llancynfelyn
Morgan-Llantrisant
Hodgson-Westmorland
Thomas-Pontypridd
Kingwell/Dymond-Devon