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Missing father to 3 children in 1839, what am i not seeing?
« on: Monday 01 June 15 20:33 BST (UK) »
I have a Hannah Foster born 1835 in Pickering, she had two siblings Daniel born 1825 and mary born 1837 ( this is assumed from census records).
On her wedding certificate it has no father listed, not deceased just a line through that section. Also on the birth register on ancestry it has no father but mother as Hannah Foster.
The 1841 census does not say whether the mother also Hannah is married and by the 1861 census she is remarried to a George Denham.
What now, surely not three illegitimate children. Am hoping you guys can point me in the right direction.
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Re: Missing father to 3 children in 1839, what am i not seeing?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 01 June 15 20:44 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Have you found birth certs/ marriage certs for other two siblings? Are they also blank? It certainly sounds like your ancestor could be illegitimate. 

It is possible to have multiple illegitimate children. My tree has a similar situation. If the father was already married or a higher social ranking etc they would not necessarily be declared on the certificate.

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« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 June 15 20:55 BST (UK) »
I can not find the birth certificate for Daniel and Mary has no father or mother listed. I do feel rather awful casting aspersions but.....
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Re: Missing father to 3 children in 1839, what am i not seeing?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 June 15 21:02 BST (UK) »
I think you have come to the correct conclusion, especially as the two you've found don't list a father. The other way would be to get her mother Hannah's marriage certificate to George and see what name and status, ie spinster or widow it gives on there.
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Re: Missing father to 3 children in 1839, what am i not seeing?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 June 15 21:04 BST (UK) »
I can not find the birth certificate for Daniel and Mary has no father or mother listed. I do feel rather awful casting aspersions but.....
Hi Hannah Denham 54 with George Denham 37 and in laws Foster children are on 1851 not 1861?
HO107/2373/141/20

So marriage certificate of George/Hannah have you not checked it?
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 June 15 21:14 BST (UK) »
I have not ordered the wedding certificate yet but that will be my next step i think. Just have found a fresh pair of eyes on a situation can some times be helpful
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Re: Missing father to 3 children in 1839, what am i not seeing?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 01 June 15 21:26 BST (UK) »
You may want to keep this record in mind for Daniel

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J9QG-MRN

Ann could be a substitute for Hannah. Getting the marriage certificate to George would be helpful as it will say if married before. (Could be James Foster was the father of Daniel but not of Mary or Hannah)
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 01 June 15 21:54 BST (UK) »
I have keep that in mind but the future records don't seem to support the James Foster idea. 
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 June 15 22:01 BST (UK) »
I have keep that in mind but the future records don't seem to support the James Foster idea. 

Could it be that he died?

Burial

27th July 1827  James Foster aged aged 36 St Peter and St Paul Pickering
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