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Re: Can you please help - GARNER
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 31 May 15 11:22 BST (UK) »
Robert Garner of Hill End admitted to hospital 1937

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/160569403

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Re: Can you please help - GARNER
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 31 May 15 19:23 BST (UK) »
Robert George MCALISTER (aka Garner) & his brother Elias Edward MCALISTER are both on the Hill End WW1 Honour Roll. There is also a photo of him & further information about the family that can found on the Hill End & Tambaroora Gathering Group website.

http://s24.postimg.org/qq6ronbrp/RGGMC.jpg
http://heatgg.org.au/he/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Hill-End-P.S.-WW1-Honour-Roll_iii_A.jpg
http://heatgg.org.au/he/databases/hill-end-ww1-honour-roll/
http://heatgg.org.au/he/publications/golden-diggers-in-preparation/
http://heatgg.org.au/he/databases/book-indexes-2/the-hill-end-story-book-3-index/

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Re: Can you please help - GARNER
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 31 May 15 23:17 BST (UK) »
Possibly the birth of Clara

15070/1866 GARNER   Clara
Parents Charles & Maria
At TAMBAROORA

This couple have about 9 listed births in NSW some in Tambaroora and Hill End and some in Sydney


https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/lifelink/familyhistory/search?0

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One of these births was Charles

16657/1868  GARNER Charles J
Parents  Charles & Maria
At TAMBAROORA

This news item describes a case where Charles GARNER is accused of rape in Hill End
He is not charged, but the article gives some clues about the family including that his father is a miner and "a coloured man" 

1893, SMH
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/156669786

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Re: Can you please help - GARNER
« Reply #21 on: Monday 01 June 15 10:24 BST (UK) »
This reply may be repeating some information already given ::)

Muriel AULD was AULD by marriage, not birth.

She married
8929/1909
AULD    William R
TILSON Muriel
At PETERSHAM

There were two sons before 1914

44528/1911 AULD Robert W
Parents William R & Muriel
At PETERSHAM

17443/1913 AULD John D
Parents William R & Muriel    
At PETERSHAM

Who Died
80347/1973 AULD John D
Parents William Robert & Muriel
At NEWCASTLE

The son Robert William lived with Muriel and Robert George GARNER in 1935 at Cardiff  and used the name GARNER. He also enlisted for ww2 under the name GARNER

 http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?ServiceId=A&VeteranId=415121.

By  1936 Rita Maud is with the family and she uses the name GARNER too, though when she married  Robert used his birth name of AULD

6014/1932    
AULD    Robert W
THOMPSON  Rita M

This birth ( as reminder from Wivenhoe, Reply #11).

Parents were Albert Edward and Clara Alberta

21331 / 1914  THOMPSON Rita M
Parents  Albert E& Clara A
At Hill End 
   
In 1943, Robert George GARNER  is still registered to vote and is living with Robert WILLIAM  GARNER and his wife Rita Maud GARNER at Byer Ave Hill End.
 
So it seems  unlikely that the Robert GARNER death at  Randwick in 1937 is the husband of Muriel

Though, of course  ???

I am not certain, but  Muriel’s husband William Robert , may have lived until 1970 in the Warringah district


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Re: Can you please help - GARNER
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 03 June 15 00:36 BST (UK) »
This seems to be the (puzzling  ??? ???) death of Muriel nee TILSON.
(you will note the parents match those given on the birth, see above)
 If she married GARNER in 1937, why is she under the name AULD

12331/1979  AULD Muriel
Parents John and Sarah Ann.

This  name (Muriel AULD) does not appear on the electoral roll  in NSW until 1954

1954
AULD, Muriel. 5 Winnie St. Cremorne
Same address is Robert AULD of no occ.
Neither appear again


Perhaps you would be kind enough to let us know, GrannyPG, if any of this information is of interest to you, as I do believe you are seeing the replies we have made.

Log in up the top and use the REPLY button at both top and bottom of your screen.

Your personal  contribution may help clarify some very tangles points.

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Re: Can you please help - GARNER
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 03 June 15 07:04 BST (UK) »

GrannyPG....much good information  here in response to your enquiry. Can you indicate if this advances your research?

NSW BDM death
12331 / 1979 LAWSON Muriel  parents John / Sarah Ann
12331 / 1979 AULD      Muriel  parents John / Sarah Ann

See reply #9 for LAWSON


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Re: Can you please help - GARNER
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 24 June 15 21:35 BST (UK) »
hello i am michelle from mudgee australia my partner is a decendant from maria and charles garner they had about 14 kids in tambarrora and hill end  nsw a lot passed as babies from the cold . there were only a few that lived had families  my partner is from one named rose anna who married alfred maris  but do know rose anne had a brother henry garner whom passed in rose cottage hill end he was with a lady gleenndora but not married she married lawson but did has 3-4 kids the henry  then a few more to lawson then a few more to lawsons brother  there was a charles as a son he was charged with assult  then theres a sister to henry and rose ann and charles she was known as clara or hannah  she had robert george in hill end father unknown then clara hannah married w e f mcallisterthey clara and william then had 2 kids clara aand ellis mcallister

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Re: Can you please help - GARNER
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 24 June 15 22:41 BST (UK) »
hello i am michelle from mudgee australia my partner is a decendant from maria and charles garner they had about 14 kids in tambarrora and hill end  nsw a lot passed as babies from the cold . there were only a few that lived had families  my partner is from one named rose anna who married alfred maris  but do know rose anne had a brother henry garner whom passed in rose cottage hill end he was with a lady gleenndora but not married she married lawson but did has 3-4 kids the henry  then a few more to lawson then a few more to lawsons brother  there was a charles as a son he was charged with assult  then theres a sister to henry and rose ann and charles she was known as clara or hannah  she had robert george in hill end father unknown then clara hannah married w e f mcallisterthey clara and william then had 2 kids clara aand ellis mcallister
NSW BDM
GROOM. ALFRED MERRISS, BRIDE ROSE A GARNER, AT HILL END
Reference no 5929/1884

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Re: Can you please help - GARNER
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 25 June 15 00:37 BST (UK) »
and in hill end on some of the kids baptism papers they spelt garner as gaynon  & gainer and maris as mayris