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Re: Births registered in two surnames
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 30 May 15 15:28 BST (UK) »
In my case they were living together when the Children were born and they were registered in her married name whilst waiting for a divorce......she later married the Children's Father and re-registered them in their Father's name.
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Re: Births registered in two surnames
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 30 May 15 15:33 BST (UK) »
Children of an unmarried couple are registered in both the father's name and that of the mother at the time, in this instance it was her married name.

If you buy a certificate you should find that the ex husband is not actually named.

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I should have said provided the father attended the registration.
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Re: Births registered in two surnames
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 30 May 15 15:53 BST (UK) »
Seems clear (as if I didn't know) that only a look at both certificates from one of the children as an example will help clarify this.  On reflection also I should get the divorce papers and check it all actually happened.

Thanks for everyone's thoughts, I'll have to wait till after my hols!

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It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
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Re: Births registered in two surnames
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 30 May 15 16:34 BST (UK) »
Just because it is indexed under both names it doesn't mean there will be two certificate,  there will only be one whichever name you order it under.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
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Re: Births registered in two surnames
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 30 May 15 20:28 BST (UK) »
Hi maxD,

Not sure if I have the correct handle on what you have described, however if the children where registered when the parents were not married they may have been re-registered under the Legitimacy Act of 1926.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimacy_Act_1926

If they were it should be marked on the b/c

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Re: Births registered in two surnames
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 30 May 15 20:36 BST (UK) »
Hi maxD,

Not sure if I have the correct handle on what you have described, however if the children where registered when the parents were not married they may have been re-registered under the Legitimacy Act of 1926
CD

If that were the case  it would be after a marriage and not have occurred in the same year and  quarter, as stated in the first post, particularly as three children were involved ;)
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Births registered in two surnames
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 30 May 15 21:00 BST (UK) »
Hi jebber

max did say this: Lady took up with man two, no marriage found.  Three children born and registered with first man's name and lady and also with new man's name and same lady.  Why do this?   Can registrations be done in retrospect to confer some element of legitimacy (I know I can buy the certs but those won't explain why register the children in the first married names up to four years after the divorce and then register them in the unmarried names).

This is why I suggested re-registered under the Legitimacy Act  :-X  If he buys one of the certs (or all) they would be stamped then he would know for certain.

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Re: Births registered in two surnames
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 31 May 15 10:45 BST (UK) »
If a birth is re-registered you can find it in the birth index 3 times, -  when it is originally registered, then after re-registration it will appear in the same year/quarter of original registration under new name and it will also appear again in the year/quarter birth was re-registered under new name, notes in the margin indicate this. Only the re-registered birth certificate will be available.

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Re: Births registered in two surnames
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 31 May 15 12:41 BST (UK) »
Jan

That doesn't seem to be the case with these three.  I have checked FreeBMD for 40 years past the dates of the two registrations in all three cases and only get two returns in the actual quarter of birth as described earlier.

Clearly, the more we discuss this, the more it becomes necessary to see the certificates!

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I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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