Jack James STEEL

[majm]

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To me, a far more significant matter is that there's no mention of Jacqueline, Annie's daughter.     I have checked NSW SRO and cannot see any listing re Child Maintenance .....  One of the indexes I have tried :
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/court-records/index-to-divorce-case-papers

I have added a comment and a live link ..... 

[cupcake]

Did you order a transcription of John STEEL's 1928 dc? 

From NSW BDM http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/

John J STEELE died 1929 Sydney,  father Seth H, mother Charlotte A   reg 5773/1929

Also
John STEEL died 1928 North Sydney, father John, mother Bridget reg 12888/1928
John STEELE died 1928 Parramatta,  father Daniel H , mother Elizabeth S reg 16509/1928

regards
   Ros

adding : funeral notice for John Joseph STEEL, late of Redfern who died in 1928
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16483402

The funeral notice matches up by date to the death registered in the North Sydney district.  (31 July 1928 for death)....   

Perhaps you need to consider obtaining an official transcription of that dc, to check if there's any mention of a wife and/or a child.... or at least an occupation, or his usual residence/address at Redfern.....

July 1928, North Sydney District, and from Jacqueline's 1943 marriage her Dad was a builder .... 

Cheers,  JM

I haven't ordered a transcription of John STEEL's 1928 dc. The information I have says Jack James died 1929/1930. ( this source was from Annie's sister)

Jack/John , Jacqueline, I would have thought, came from Jack. She does give her father, on her marriage cert 1943 as John James STEEL building contractor.

Will contact the transcription people and see what they come up with.

cupcake
 

[cupcake]

From NSW BDM http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/

John J STEELE died 1929 Sydney,  father Seth H, mother Charlotte A   reg 5773/1929

Also
John STEEL died 1928 North Sydney, father John, mother Bridget reg 12888/1928
John STEELE died 1928 Parramatta,  father Daniel H , mother Elizabeth S reg 16509/1928

regards
   Ros

adding : funeral notice for John Joseph STEEL, late of Redfern who died in 1928
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16483402

The John J STEELE died 1929 Sydney,  father Seth H, mother Charlotte A   reg 5773/1929 is not mine. This one  is John Joseph Steele - male 11 days.

John STEEL died 1928 North Sydney, father John, mother Bridget reg 12888/1928 doesn't appear to be mine either.
 
This John Joseph STEEL is buried at Waverley with his wife Elizabeth Agnes STEEL & their grandson Herbert John STEEL:

MI at Waverley has the following:
STEEL Elizabeth Agnes 27 years died 1 Oct 1893
Wife of John Steel
STEEL J J 69 years died 31 Jul 1928
Husband of above
STEEL Herbert John 16 years died 30 Apr 1932
Grandson of above

Burial location:
Denomination: Catholic
Section: 8 Select
Row: 12
Grave/s: 1292-1293

[~MERLIN~]

So now you are just copying & pasting information I have given you previously in Reply #16   

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=721742.msg5656864#msg5656864

[majm]

I cannot see why you have eliminated the chap who died in July 1928 and is buried at Waverley.  Afterall, Merlin had clearly provided you with the MIs which show he was widowed back in 1893.   I also cannot see where you have followed up re Herbert's father ..... perhaps he was Jack ?

ADD
NSW BDM online index will likely provide you with the names of Herbert's parents.....

I wonder how you are recording any of the information that many of us have sought out for you.

Cheers,  JM

[cupcake]

I cannot see why you have eliminated the chap who died in July 1928 and is buried at Waverley.  Afterall, Merlin had clearly provided you with the MIs which show he was widowed back in 1893.   I also cannot see where you have followed up re Herbert's father ..... perhaps he was Jack ?

ADD
NSW BDM online index will likely provide you with the names of Herbert's parents.....

I wonder how you are recording any of the information that many of us have sought out for you.

Cheers,  JM

Herbert J's parents appear to be  John B Steel and Louise E ( 5100/1932)


NSW DEATH REGISTRATION TRANSCRIPTION                     REF NO: 1928/12888


NAME            John Steel

DATE OF DEATH         31st July 1928

PLACE   Mater Misericordiae General Hospital, North Sydney, late of Redfern Street, Municipality of Redfern

RANK OR PROFESSION      Saddler

SEX AND AGE         Male, 67 years

CAUSE OF DEATH   Lobar pneumonia

CERTIFICATION   HD Ashton (registered)

DATE LAST SEEN          30th July 1928

FATHER            John Steel
 
OCCUPATION         Labourer

MOTHER            Bridget Kelly

INFORMANT   HX Steel, son, 40 Excelsior Street, Leichhardt

REGISTRATION         Chas Saunders, 31st July 1928, North Sydney

DATE OF BURIAL   1st August 1928

PLACE OF BURIAL      Roman Catholic Cemetery, Waverley

UNDERTAKER   Joseph Medcalf

MINISTER AND RELIGION      Antony Grealy, Roman Catholic

WITNESSES         William Dreves and Arthur Bicknell

PLACE OF BIRTH         NSW

TIME IN AUST COLONIES      No entry

PLACE OF MARRIAGE      NSW

AGE AT MARRIAGE      About 24 years

NAME OF SPOUSE      Elizabeth Agnes Radcliff

CHILDREN OF MARRIAGE   William J 40 years, Henry C 38 years, John B 36 years living, none deceased

OTHER SUGGESTIONS OR NOTES   None stated

[majm]

Hi Cupcakey,

Perhaps the following may be of interest ( John B Steel, the father of Herbert John STEEL who is likely the lad interred at Waverley as per Merlin's post) and so perhaps you may need to ask some questions on the New Zealand board. 

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/16803894  16 Dec 1931 SMH

John Bernard STEEL ............... of 8 Ben Nevis Flats. Hardle-street. Darlinghurst, formerly of Wellington. New Zealand.
Likely this death was registered in the Hurstville district.  NSW BDM online has his parents as John J and Elizabeth A (Steel).  #18040

Louise Evelyn LOVELL married John Bernard STEEL in 1915, marriage registered in NZ. 

I notice that there's three consecutive generations of John Steel recorded on that 1928 NSW dc.   (NSW BDM has John B Steel's 1892 birth with mum as Lizzie)

NZ papers past has :  http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast
Evening Post, Volume CXII, Issue 151, 23 December 1931, Page 1
On 15th December, 1931, John Bernard Steel, beloved husband of Louise Evelyn Steel and loving father of Herbert John and Joyce Evelyn, at Waterfall Sanatorium, Sydney, N.S.W.; formerly of Newtown, Wellington; after a long and painful illness; aged 39 years. At rest. 



Cheers,  JM

[cupcake]

Very interesting and will absorb.

Thank you.

[rosball]

  Removed - sorry - duplicating info that JM had already supplied 

regards
   Ros