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Re: Jack James STEEL
« Reply #135 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 08:17 BST (UK) »
Have emailed Ask a Librarian at State Library of New South Wales regarding the 1927/1929 rolls.

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Have a reply from State Library of New South Wales .

They consulted the 1926, 1928, and 1930 electoral Rolls ( the rolls were produced every two years at this time).

1926 - No Titteringtons on the electoral roll for Redfern (Division of South Sydney, Sub-division of Redfern)

1928 - Titterington, Annie, 51 Castlereagh Street, home duties, F, Redfern (Division of South Sydney, Sub-division of Redfern)

Titterington, Janet, c.o. Maitland, 7 Castlereagh Street, home duties, F, Redfern (Division of South Sydney, Sub-division of Redfern)

1930 - Titterington, Janet, 51 Castlereagh Street, home duties, F, Redfern (Division of South Sydney, Sub-division of Redfern)

In 1928 Annie Titterington was the only person with that surname living at her address.
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« Reply #136 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 08:24 BST (UK) »
Did you ask for those electoral roll look ups to include Jack James STEEL or John James STEEL or John RICHMOND?   Afterall, you are striving to sort Jacqueline's paternal line .....

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Re: Jack James STEEL
« Reply #137 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 09:02 BST (UK) »
Did you ask for those electoral roll look ups to include Jack James STEEL or John James STEEL or John RICHMOND?   Afterall, you are striving to sort Jacqueline's paternal line .....

Cheers, JM

Yes, I am striving to find out Jacqueline's paternal line but my initial request was for Annie living at 70 Redfern Street. Yes, I should have mentioned Jack James Steel  :-[.

Have sent another one asking about Jack James Steel and John Richmond.


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« Reply #138 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 10:48 BST (UK) »
Have been looking on Google for 207 Victoria Street, Darlinghurst, where the John Richmond resided in 1927.

There doesn't appear to be a Victoria Street, Darlinghurst - it gives a drop down list saying do you mean - giving 7 options.

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« Reply #139 on: Thursday 30 July 15 01:56 BST (UK) »
http://www.photosau.com.au/CoSMaps/scripts/home.asp

From my 1900 map
 :) Victoria Street runs from Cowper St Wharf (Woolloomooloo) all the way through to Oxford St (Darlinghurst) and
 :) along the way, it passes through Potts Point, so, please check :
 :) on the northern side of Oxford St, near to where South Dowling St (from the south) and Barcom St (east of Victoria St) meets Oxford St. can you find Victoria St ?
 
The post code for that immediate area is likely to be 2011, and that post code includes the suburb of Potts Point.  Perhaps you could select that option from the drop down menu. 

Re the above live link to the  City of Sydney maps.  If you look through these many maps, you may notice some that are quite detailed.  From several of these, you can see that Victoria St is one of the streets that are ‘boundaries’ between various suburbs and also various electoral wards for the City of Sydney.  So, in the 1920s Victoria St where it meets Oxford St was on the ‘cusp’ of Woolloomooloo  and Darlinghurst and Paddington (Paddington as in Wollahra Municipal Council local government area)   

So, basically, Cup, if Potts Point is one of those options you mention, then why not try it !   Darlinghurst Post Code is 2010. They are next door suburbs.

Cheers,  JM
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Re: Jack James STEEL
« Reply #140 on: Saturday 01 August 15 08:29 BST (UK) »
Your Annie TITTERINGTON spun a web of lies  ::)

NSW POLICE GAZETTE - 23 November, 1927:

http://postimg.org/image/hluy34ooj/
Not sure this is my Annie as I believe she had red hair.

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Lets  assume this is my  Annie and was married to John Richmond, who resided at 207 Victoria Street, Darlinghurst.
Why  then,  is she missing from her home at 70 Redfern Street, Redfern

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« Reply #141 on: Saturday 01 August 15 08:38 BST (UK) »
Annie left 70 Redfern St on 1 October 1927

Lets  assume this is my  Annie and was married to John Richmond, who resided at 207 Victoria Street, Darlinghurst.
Why  then,  is she missing from her home at 70 Redfern Street, Redfern

Here's a very very logical reason for John moving out.....

So, John had spent quite a number of weeks paying rent for several rooms there, in anticipation that Annie would return.   

But once it got to November, 1927 he was reluctant to continue to rent all the rooms that he and Annie had needed, so he searched and he found cheaper accommodation just for himself at 207 Victoria St, Darlinghurst.  Then he informed the local police who investigated and consequently raised the disappearance of Annie (but not her daughter Jacqueline) in the Gazette..... 

Obviously the NSW police would have checked if Annie was with her mum, at Castlereagh St, Redfern (just around the corner from 70 Redfern St)  prior to listing the matter in the Gazette 23 November 1927 (so almost eight weeks after Annie left 70 Redfern St). 

There is NO mention in the next several Police Gazettes that I have noticed showing that Mrs Annie RICHMOND was back with Mr John RICHMOND.

To me, a far more significant matter is that there's no mention of Jacqueline, Annie's daughter.     I have checked NSW SRO and cannot see any listing re Child Maintenance .....  One of the indexes I have tried :
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/court-records/index-to-divorce-case-papers


Cheers,  JM
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« Reply #142 on: Saturday 01 August 15 09:14 BST (UK) »
Did you order a transcription of John STEEL's 1928 dc? 

From NSW BDM http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/

John J STEELE died 1929 Sydney,  father Seth H, mother Charlotte A   reg 5773/1929

Also
John STEEL died 1928 North Sydney, father John, mother Bridget reg 12888/1928
John STEELE died 1928 Parramatta,  father Daniel H , mother Elizabeth S reg 16509/1928

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adding : funeral notice for John Joseph STEEL, late of Redfern who died in 1928
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16483402


The funeral notice matches up by date to the death registered in the North Sydney district.  (31 July 1928 for death)....   

Perhaps you need to consider obtaining an official transcription of that dc, to check if there's any mention of a wife and/or a child.... or at least an occupation, or his usual residence/address at Redfern.....

July 1928, North Sydney District, and from Jacqueline's 1943 marriage her Dad was a builder .... 

Cheers,  JM
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« Reply #143 on: Saturday 01 August 15 09:38 BST (UK) »
Annie left 70 Redfern St on 1 October 1927

Lets  assume this is my  Annie and was married to John Richmond, who resided at 207 Victoria Street, Darlinghurst.
Why  then,  is she missing from her home at 70 Redfern Street, Redfern

Here's a very very logical reason for John moving out.....

So, John had spent quite a number of weeks paying rent for several rooms there, in anticipation that Annie would return.   

But once it got to November, 1927 he was reluctant to continue to rent all the rooms, so he found cheaper accommodation just for himself at 207 Victoria St, Darlinghurst, and he informed the local police who investigated and then raised the disappearance in the Gazette..... 

Obviously the NSW police would have checked if Annie was with her mum, at Castlereagh St, Redfern (just around the corner from 70 Redfern St)  prior to listing the matter in the Gazette 23 November 1927 (so almost eight weeks after Annie left 70 Redfern St). 

There is NO mention in the next several Police Gazettes that I have noticed showing that Mrs Annie RICHMOND was back with Mr John RICHMOND.

To me, a far more significant matter is that there's no mention of Jacqueline, Annie's daughter.

Cheers,  JM

This does seem a logical reason for John moving out.

I do agree with you that a far more significant matter is, that there's no mention of Jacqueline, Annie's daughter.

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