Jack James STEEL

[cupcake]

 
 Thank you for the address and info in Ireland  .

You are right, the age at death doesn't match, neither do the dates in Ireland, match.

So, she was widowed in 1911. Her age here is 35 and would mean she was born 1876 and would mean she had her son Charles when she was 14 as Charles was born in 1890.

cupcake

[majm]

 Thank you for the address and info in Ireland  .

You are right, the age at death doesn't match, neither do the dates in Ireland, match.

So, she was widowed in 1911. Her age here is 35 and would mean she was born 1876 and would mean she had her son Charles when she was 14 as Charles was born in 1890.

cupcake

Charles states he was 23 years and 1 month of age (23 1/12) when he enlisted in Oct 1914.  So, he was born in September 1891, so Meta was NOT 14 years of age when Charles was born..... 

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=7360254

Add seems Irish Census was 2 April 1911

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

http://www.belfastfamilyhistory.com/showItem.php?id=28847&year=1911&type=person

This Charles was in Belfast in 1911 at the census, and he was 19, and born in NSW.  He was with other family members. 

Cheers,  JM

[cupcake]

If Meta's age 35 was correct in 1911,which I doubt, she had Charles when she was 15 , which I don't believe. Meta was born in 1870 and was 20 when she had Charles.

Charles was 43 when he married in Feb 1933 and still maintain he was born in 1890.

cupcake

[cupcake]

Do hope this makes sense.

They have Charles born in NSW. 1890? He and his mother are in Ireland in 1911. Charles marries first wife in England 1918

His mother Meta and Charles's first wife, emigrate to Australia in 1918. She must have been in Australia before 1918 to have Charles  .

I am still looking for Meta Sophia's marriage details to a Willam Henry JACKSON - Charle's father

cupcake

[majm]

Do hope this makes sense.

They have Charles born in NSW. 1890? He and his mother are in Ireland in 1911. Charles marries first wife in England 1918

His mother Meta and Charles's first wife, emigrate to Australia in 1918. She must have been in Australia before 1918 to have Charles  .

I am still looking for Meta Sophia's marriage details to a Willam Henry JACKSON - Charle's father

cupcake

 

Cupcake,  have you done a timeline, using the information on the various records found for you? 

I realise you hold that Charles was born in 1890, despite he providing his age as 23 years 1 month when he enlisted 7th Oct 1914, but that is still not going to find a birth in NSW for Charles Robert JACKSON in either 1890 or 1891.   

Way back I provided the index info for the first marriage.   May I ask again if you have any thoughts as to what the initial "S" may stand for?

Perhaps it is a SURNAME that may help us to help you, afterall, by inference you may well be suggesting that Meta had Charles prior to her marriage to William JACKSON, and IF so, then it is unlikely to find Charles NSW birth under that surname.


Cheers,  JM 

[majm]

I am unsure of where to post the following...

But Cupcake, have you considered the following birth as perhaps being for your lass?

It is indexed online at Queensland BDM.

It is for a Mary Ann Meta Sophia, daughter of a Robert Thomas GOWDY and a Mary Ann Meta Sophia BOYD...... It is a birth in 1872, and is referenced C2859.  (The "C" shows it is not a birth registered in the Capital city of Qld, ie it is not registered in Brisbane). 

https://www.qld.gov.au/law/births-deaths-marriages-and-divorces/family-history-research/

Cheers,  JM

[cupcake]

 I you are referring to this "S"   Charles R S JACKSON married March quarter 1918 to Kathleen A JACKSON, I am afriad I don't know, could be a tying error.

 I am just going to accept Charles was born in NSW.

Thank you all for your help.

cupcake

[cando]

If Meta's age 35 was correct in 1911,which I doubt, she had Charles when she was 15 , which I don't believe. Meta was born in 1870 and was 20 when she had Charles.

How do you know that Meta was born 1870?   You don't have her birth certificate so how on earth can you claim the above.  Information on death certificates and census is not primary evidence of date of birth.

Meta filled out the Irish 1911 census form and it is clearly 35 years of age on the original.

Search for yourself....you need to search for Sophia JACKSON as the Meta has not been transcribed from the original.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

Cando