Jack James STEEL

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Merlin,

Thanks for reminding me, I had forgotten about that.

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[sparrett]

JM,

This may seem a stupid question but, I'll ask it anyway - are the names Jack and John used as the same, if that makes sense  .

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Perhaps helpful to mention at this point, too, Jacqueline is the feminine (French) version of JACK.

Sue

[cupcake]

Sue,

Thank you for that 

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[cupcake]

 
Thought I would look up Jacqulines birth details for around 1926 as this would possibily give me her father. Unfortunately, the NSW births don't seem to start till 1915. So, will try one of the official transcription agents for NSW BDM  and see if they can help.
 
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[cando]

Birth registrations are restricted to public access for 100 years in NSW.  I think you meant to write that the births only extend to 1915 not seem to start till 1915.

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/births/birth-certificate.aspx

Cando

[cupcake]

Cando,

Thank you for that. We have similar here in the UK with the 100 year rule. Yes, my mistake regarding births extended to 1915.

Just means I 'll not be able to get the birth entry I wanted.

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[cupcake]

Have been reading Annie Jackson's probate and on her death certificate it clearly mentions her de-facto husband was Jack James STEEL

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[majm]

     May please I ask if you have received the official transcription for the 1943 mc? and the info about the parents of the bride.

May I please suggest that you consider popping that marriage cert on a Wish List, as it is likely to have some info about her Dad. 

Cheers,  JM

Marriage:

Reginald Thomas BYRNES m. Jacqueline James STEEL 1943 COFFS HARBOUR #21977   

https://familyhistory.bdm.nsw.gov.au/

I agree the certificate would give some info on the father. ........

     May I please ask for the informant's name and relationship as per the dc and for your transcript of that dc.

Have been reading Annie Jackson's probate and on her death certificate it clearly mentions her de-facto husband was Jack James STEEL

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Cheers,   JM

[majm]

I wonder about your wording .... I have had a good look at various NSW BDM records over some 50 years of involvement in my hobby, family history.    I have not ever noticed any dc with the words 'de facto' for the relationship.   I would expect that Annie's dc will show the informant as her daughter, and if so then I expect the daughter will be of the view that Annie was twice married.   

In the NSW BDM administrative system, there are no BDM officers employed to validate the information given by the informant to the funeral director.  The informant signs a section of the funeral director's papers.  It is the equivalent of a Statutory Declaration, and there are heavy penalties for prejuring yourself.  So the informant provides information that they believe to be true.  That's why it is often said that the information on a death certificate is not as reliable as the information on a marriage certificate.

Cheers,  JM