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Offline Mike in Cumbria

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Re: Help me trace my grandfather's ancestry
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 27 May 15 12:29 BST (UK) »
Steady on, chaps and chapesses.
A newbie finding her way is very different from someone "taking the PI55"

We all had to start somewhere, and probably made lots of mistakes of judgement.

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Re: Help me trace my grandfather's ancestry
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 27 May 15 12:37 BST (UK) »
True Mike. But I figured a newbie would have at least attempted to respond to the advice given. There seems to be ( in my opinion) wilful ignorance

This is what led me to my comment and I am happy to stand by it. Its someone having a joke  >:(
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Re: Help me trace my grandfather's ancestry
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 27 May 15 12:45 BST (UK) »
I don't think so, but let's keep Rootschat a friendly welcoming place.   :)

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Re: Help me trace my grandfather's ancestry
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 27 May 15 12:48 BST (UK) »
You are right.   :)

I wont be a party to either of the threads from now on( for my sanity)

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Paternal: Gibbins,McNamara, Jenkins, Schumann,  Inwood, Sheehan, Quinlan, Tierney, Cole

Maternal: Munn, Simpson , Brighton, Clayfield, Westmacott, Corbell, Hatherell, Blacksell/Blackstone, Boothey , Muirhead

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Re: Help me trace my grandfather's ancestry
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 27 May 15 12:52 BST (UK) »
Sad thing is that there are lots of people who would be willing to help if DebraBloom would just give us some concrete information. I'm still not sure whether the name she is researching is Bloom or Bloomer.
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Re: Help me trace my grandfather's ancestry
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 27 May 15 12:59 BST (UK) »
Thanks a ton for this. All I needed was his father's name and I managed to trace his line down to Robert Barzilay Bloomer
& Hannah Benveniste Mendes (born 1509 - Gloucestershire)
At this point the name changes, it's spelled either Blomer or Blumer.
I went back further still and found the surname first started as Herrera which is strange but interesting.

At the same time though this seems to disprove that my line is related to a certain famous person by the surname Bloomer, since his family tree is known. My mother would say that he was her great great uncle.

How did you trace your family to 1509?

How much further did you then go back to discover the surname was originally Herrera? Can you  explain how Herrera became Blumer( or variants)?

Who is the famous Bloomer you thought you were related to? Why would your mother say he was her great uncle of he was not her great uncle?

probably from here Ruskie http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/bloomer/264/
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Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
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Re: Help me trace my grandfather's ancestry
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 27 May 15 13:06 BST (UK) »

I think I am just as confused as everyone else after reading the threads on here and the duplicate threads on the other sites as to what surname she is researching.

I agree with Isobel that there are lots of people here who would be willing to help DebraBloom, but for people to help her she does need to post some concrete information.

Perhaps Debra you could answer some of the questions that have been asked of you and provide  proof of your facts, which would be an enormous help to everyone.
Bramwell -  Derbyshire and Bolton
Pottinger -  Gloucestershire, Berkshire
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Re: Help me trace my grandfather's ancestry
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 27 May 15 13:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks again larkspur. I think I'm more confused than ever now.  :)

Debra, you need to be very careful about believing the information you find on the internet - a lot of it is incorrect assumptions.

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Re: Help me trace my grandfather's Ernest Bloomer ancestry
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 27 May 15 17:31 BST (UK) »
NettieS's advice and comments are both moderate and helpful. Debra would do well to heed them. The statement about suddenly getting back to the 1500s must have taken everyone's breath away, as it did mine.
Having just read all the repetitive statements, here and other forum, whilst I won't suggest it's a wind-up, the original poster seems to have a very vague and woolly idea of what FH research is, - and an alarming habit of clutching at straws grasped almost at random.
Anyway, if Ms Taylor was her grandfather's mother - then as that's almost certainly not a Jewish surname, and as Jewish descent is traditionally maternal - then, sorry, Debra, that almost certainly rules out being Jewish in any case.
There's not really a "Jewish look", after all, is there. Perhaps there is Arab ancestry in her line? OIr Mediterranean?  That would provide the "look" just as well. But I get the feeling that she would not welcome that as much.
Perhaps Trystan ought simply to pm her, and close this thread too, until she has some basic facts for us to use to assist her research. Can anyone put up the e-mail address to guide her to where she can get the certs - less than £10 each, if I remember rightly, and a good investment!
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