Help me trace my grandfather's Ernest Bloomer ancestry

[DebraBloom]

Thanks guys

[keyboard86]

Hi could well be these two:-

Ernest Bloomer Dec qtr 1932 Stourbridge 6c 73
Thomas Bloomer Dec qtr 1932 Stourbridge 6c 73
Both Mothers maiden name Taylor

Keyboard86

[DebraBloom]

Forgot to add; he was born on October (the fifth teenth)

[Rena]

Four times a year, e.g. every three months, registrars in each district send all the records of births, marriages and deaths to the main archive where they are recorded.  The reference number quoted of 6c/73, is the Volume and the page number and should always be quoted when ordering that certificate..

Your ancestor's October record of birth was sent by the registrar of the town of Stourbridge, which is in the county of Worcestershire, at the end of December 1932 = "Dec qtr"

[crisane]

On FreeBMD

Marriages September 1/4 1928   
Thomas Bloomer  and Lily  Taylor registration district  Dudley  vol 6b page 2253

[majm]

Some background info to help others : http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=720062.0



Cheers,  JM

[DebraBloom]

Thanks a ton for this. All I needed was his father's name and I managed to trace his line down to Robert Barzilay Bloomer
& Hannah Benveniste Mendes (born 1509 - Gloucestershire)
At this point the name changes, it's spelled either Blomer or Blumer.
I went back further still and found the surname first started as Herrera which is strange but interesting.

At the same time though this seems to disprove that my line is related to a certain famous person by the surname Bloomer, since his family tree is known. My mother would say that he was her great great uncle.

[Cell]

Hi and welcome to rootschat,
 To trace your grandfather's ancestry you need to purchase some BMD certs.
What country did Ernest marry in?
If it was my grandfather, I'd start with his marriage cert first.

The birth refs that Keyboard has given you looks good ( http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ ), you can order the certs from the England and Wales  GRO http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

The birth certificate will give you his exact birth date, the place/address where he was born, and the parent's names, and occupation of the father.

With that you can then look for the parents marriage (that may or may not be be the Thomas Bloomer and Lilly Taylor ) - Their marriage cert will give you the names of the fathers of the couple and their occupations, plus witnesses. With that information you can then consult the 1911 census http://www.1911census.co.uk/  and hopefully find them and their families - Then you go back further, step by step with certs and the 1901 to 1841 censuses.

I haven't read all of your other thread, but it seems that you have tried to "look Earnest up" on the internet and can't get back. I think the problem is that you do not have any basic  hard evidence like his bmd certificates to start off with. It depends on if you want to trace him with 100% certainty, or you are just happy to guess at his heritage, -  If you want to trace him back with any certainty, you need to  first start off with some] good, solid, factual  foundations such as purchasing his birth certificate from the GRO with the given refs that have been provided. Otherwise it is just guesses  with very little evidence.
   
Without solid foundations, It is very, very easy to go off tracing the wrong people. There is only so much the internet can do.

Kind Regards
Ps
ok, whilst typing my post, I see that you've just posted a reply and have now said you've traced to 1509 . A lot further than myself and in just a day , so perhaps I should not be giving tips.

Kind Regards

[majm]

May I please, please, please, express some concerns.

Thanks a ton for this. All I needed was his father's name and I managed to trace his line down to Robert Barzilay Bloomer
& Hannah Benveniste Mendes (born 1509 - Gloucestershire)
At this point the name changes, it's spelled either Blomer or Blumer.
I went back further still and found the surname first started as Herrera which is strange but interesting.

At the same time though this seems to disprove that my line is related to a certain famous person by the surname Bloomer, since his family tree is known. My mother would say that he was her great great uncle.

I cannot fathom how you can be confidently saying that you have traced back to 1509, or actually have traced back to your mother's grandparents in less than say four hours, which after all is when crisane kindly gave you the index information for the 1928 marriage that may well be for your mum's grandparents.   It seems to me that you are relying on a combination of a) submitted information  b) index transcriptions  c) oral history.....   I am not meaning to be suggesting these are not suitable to consider, but simply put, there's actual records that you should seriously consider as significant documents to obtain, as they are far more helpful in researching your family history.

  Please do not rely on submitted trees without at least validating that person's research.

  Please do not rely on index transcriptions without at least considering which item to actually obtain or make your own transcription of (swap/purchase/attend the archives and personally inspect the actual document etc)....

  Please do use your oral history as part of your family history, and once you have identified a possible clue from it, then research that clue.  Often there's a grain of truth there, and you just need to determine how to interpret the oral history.   

ADD, I agree with Cell, there is only so much that the internet can do.


Cheers,  JM