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DFM Medal Frederick Wills WWII
« on: Thursday 21 May 15 14:24 BST (UK) »
Could anyone advise me if it is possible to obtain information why my uncle Eric was awarded the DFM?  Though I have the medal and letters from the Palace, there is no citation document.  Would love to know!!!

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Re: DFM Medal Frederick Wills WWII
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 May 15 02:57 BST (UK) »
Hi,
  Do you know the date please?

Leanne

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Re: DFM Medal Frederick Wills WWII
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 May 15 06:11 BST (UK) »
Interesting question - I will be interested to see the answer.

My father was mentioned in despatches, and he had no idea why, though he was involved in a couple of prominent RAF events, but never received a major medal or recognition. I've always wondered how I could find out.
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Close, Davies, Thomas, Isaac, Williams - Carmarthenshire, Glamorganshire, Monmouthshire.


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Re: DFM Medal Frederick Wills WWII
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 23 May 15 07:02 BST (UK) »
The answer to the question posed by Mike has been posted over on RAFCommands.
http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?18758-Frederick-wills-dfm-information-please

To part answer the question from Churchie:

If your father was 645414 W/O R H Church then his MiD was Gazetted in the New Year Honours List of 1946

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37407/page/105

Names in the MiD section of this post war list were for non-immediate awards and usually for Meritorious Service.

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Re: DFM Medal Frederick Wills WWII
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 23 May 15 08:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ross, yes, that's my Daddy. he just never knew who had recommended him, or why. I suppose there's no way of knowing, but that's what interests me.

Caroline.
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Close, Davies, Thomas, Isaac, Williams - Carmarthenshire, Glamorganshire, Monmouthshire.


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Re: DFM Medal Frederick Wills WWII
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 23 May 15 09:04 BST (UK) »
All Gallantry and MID citations that have been archived are lumped together in AIR2 series at The National Archives.

These include failed bids for an award that were downgraded.

Word of caution not all MID citation survived to archive, most of those missing are for what I suspect his award was.

Another word of caution AIR2 series is enormous.

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Re: DFM Medal Frederick Wills WWII
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 23 May 15 20:50 BST (UK) »
Hi,
  Do you know the date please?

Leanne

Hi Leanne   The only information I have is my Uncle's Service Number 1454360 Pilot Officer Frederick Wills and a letter from the King inviting him to attend the palace on the 30th July 1945.

Thanks  Mike
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Re: DFM Medal Frederick Wills WWII
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 23 May 15 21:16 BST (UK) »
Mike - he was in 684 Sqn

Here is "Frederick Wills 1454360 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, 684 Sqn" in the London Gazette 11 August 1944

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36649/supplement/3716/data.pdf

and (this is for other people)

"WILLS, Frederick. 1454360 Flight Sergeant, No.684 Sqn.

L.G. 11/8/1944. Sorties 46, Flying hours 233.50. Navigator. Air2/9633.

Flight Sergeant Wills is Navigator to Warrant Officer Johnston*. His high standard of target finding and accuracy on photographic runs have in no small measure been responsible for the outstanding success of the crew.

Remarks by O.C., Wing.
Strongly recommended for the award of the Distinguished Flying Medal. Flight Sergeant Wills and Warrant Officer Johnston have done and are doing excellent sorties and they are a very keen and reliable crew.

Remarks by Air Commander, Eastern Air Command.
I concur in this recommendation. Flight Sergeant Wills has proved himself a capable Navigator on long-range reconnaissance flights and has carried out 46 missions in the course of the last eight months.

Tavender/Vol.II. K-Z. p.986."

1454360 Acting Flight Sergeant Frederick Thomas Baker Wills (His full name)(Navigator)

1376868 W/O James Aden JOHNSTON DFC RAFVR (DFC - LG: 11/8/1944:p.3715) (Pilot)


So all that remains is to find some type of war Diary and find out exactly where and what he was doing to get the DFM, when they were Flying out of Burma, Malaya and Thailand, photographing the Japanese activities. Although I suspect they were CONSTANTLY shot at by ground forces with dum dum bullets and enemy aircraft and that would be reason enough for awarding a DFO (after all their information they brought back was vital)

Don't forget they would have to fly low and slow to take the photographs (so they didn't blur) and then escape fire and aircraft as fast as possible. All that with no weapons to fight back on their mosquito!

*Good book to read "Mosquito Photo-Reconnaissance Units of World War 2  By Martin W. Bowman"
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Re: DFM Medal Frederick Wills WWII
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 24 May 15 23:17 BST (UK) »
At least some of 684 Sqn's ORBs are available online via the National Archives.

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Try advanced search; search term 684; confine to series AIR and date 1943-1945.

Simons Barrett Jaffray Waugh Langdale Heugh Meade Garnsey Evans Vazie Mountcure Glascodine Parish Peard Smart Dobbie Sinclair....
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