st vigeans a photo if possible

[Lauraine]

Dear Luckychirpy:

  You are just so kind.  If there is anything I can help you out with in Manitoba, Canada, please ask - no promises, but would do my best.  Do you know if there are any old photos in the archives of the Helen Street Area?  Cheers,

Lauraine

[luckychirpy]

I hope this works....lets see

[Lauraine]

Dear Alex:

Not sure how to answer your last mssg so am doing it here.
I am not sure if any of the family are buried there.  Am specifically looking for graves of Isobelle (Isobella) SHAND NICOL and Alexander NICOL her husband.  Alexander remarried an Ann KENNEDY, but know she is buried in Aurora, Illinois along with her son John Todd NICOL.  As Alexander is not buried with them, am wondering if he died in Forfar, at 50 Helen Street.

 Also looking in this family for a Brown NICOL & Betsy Ann NICOL - neither found on the 1881 census in Alexander NICOL Household  Other missing members for that census are accounted for.  Thank you again for the great pics.

Lauraine

[GEN10]

Sorry to butt in but could anyone tell me where Strathmore Villas, St Vigeans Forfar were, if they are still standing or renamed or even knocked down?
Lex

[Lauraine]

Hi Forfarian:

  I figured out how to get the Arbroath photos saved into my photoshop program.  All you do is left click blue jpg at bottom and save.  Just a slow learner - now to see if can figure how to post old photo.   Thx again

Lauraine

[luckychirpy]

Lauraine,

Do you have any dates for the relatives you mentioned in your previous messages? I have a book of some memorial inscriptions around Angus but pre 1855 if that is anywhere near the time. I will have a look if you can give more details.

[Wendl]

Dear Alex:

Not sure how to answer your last mssg so am doing it here.
I am not sure if any of the family are buried there.  Am specifically looking for graves of Isobelle (Isobella) SHAND NICOL and Alexander NICOL her husband.  Alexander remarried an Ann KENNEDY, but know she is buried in Aurora, Illinois along with her son John Todd NICOL.  As Alexander is not buried with them, am wondering if he died in Forfar, at 50 Helen Street.

 Also looking in this family for a Brown NICOL & Betsy Ann NICOL - neither found on the 1881 census in Alexander NICOL Household  Other missing members for that census are accounted for.  Thank you again for the great pics.

Lauraine

Hi there....

I'm not sure if this is of any significance...but, my grt grt grandmother was an Ann Nicol Brown, the daughter of William Brown and Margaret Ramsay....she was b. 22Jan1855, in Forfar.....she also went on to name one of her sons, Alexander after marrying  John Walker b. Dec 1844 in ST. Vigean's.....wonder if maybe the Brown family and the Nicol family were friends or neighbours?

All the Best
Wendy

[Lauraine]

Hi Wendy:

It is very possible they were neighbors or friends.  Would need to look at census data to see if they were in the same vacinity.  Brown was a male and hv now learned both died as children.   It does appear that using surnames in children's given names was done.  Have an g. uncle who was named John Carnegie Hird - the Carnegies lived nearby.  Sometimes surnames in a given name designate a grandmothers or mother's maiden name.  Am sure they followed these two practises  just to confuse descendants.

Lauraine

[Wendl]

Hi Lauraine....

Yes I'm quite familiar with Maternal family surnames being used as second givens....the majority of my "Irish" family is like that .... I know that Nichol is not a family name...as Ann's mother's  maiden name was Ramsay, and her grandmother's maiden name was Clark.  Just a thot ... thanks for your reply.

All the best
Wendy