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Re: Help needed with a talk, please
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 10 May 15 17:09 BST (UK) »
You might start out by a BIG visual aid of a simple family tree, your own or fictional, and talking a bit about how much is lost - witness all the "celebs" on WDYTYA. You might ask them if they've ever watched that; if they know of any recorded tree related to them - get them talking, anecdotes etc.
Then explain that's exactly what they can best pass forward to family historians - their own or the wider world. Talk about the recently televised VE day memories recalled - so easily those could be lost.
Read out a few anecdotes or significant event memories and blu-tack them in the appropriate spaces on your Vis Aid Tree. Add photos - pointing out that pencilled in details on the rear can save a lot of time. Possibly have a participation event for them - a sheet with a few photos (females are easier) on it that they can try to pin down the dates of ( a little prize?) and discuss how they can elicit evidence from pics. You could also add photos of places - preferably in the locality, old pics, and also show the same places in the present day.
That load of stuff up on display should demonstrate well how additional information can flesh out the bare facts of born, married, bred, died, and enrich it.
Then you can go into how your audience can do this - show a pic of or have a box of muddled old photos, with no information. Show albums. Explain how captions in  albums, and pencilled notes on the back of pictures can be really helpful - dates and places, too, as well as names. "Cousin Jean" isn't as helpful as "My cousin Jean Bloggs, aged 18, at Blackpool, summer 1972"  - and possibly their own name or initials. Explain too how free sites like RootChat can be of great help to family historians (we all know not all "elderly" are at all phased by computers, don't we?) and suggest how they may like to start. You could even distribute a sheet with either a fill-in-your -own -family mini - tree, and/or a few questions like:
* Where were you born?
*When/where were you baptised?
* Where were your parents married?
*What were your grandparents' names?
* Where were your grandparents married? When?
*What do you remember about where you first lived?
*Describe what one of your grandparents looked like?
- I'm sure you'll think of far better things yourself.
To wind it up, you could ask them if they'd like to have another meeting say a month later, and each bring a small local memory, a story, photo or something, with them then.
-Then go for a good drink!
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Re: Help needed with a talk, please
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 10 May 15 19:50 BST (UK) »
Crikey ThrelfallYorky that's all fab!  Especially the bit about having a drink at the end ;)



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Re: Help needed with a talk, please
« Reply #29 on: Monday 11 May 15 17:09 BST (UK) »
I thought it sounded a bit like a lesson plan, when I'd written it - but it should work. People always like:
a) a handout
b) a little quiz
c) something they can contribute there and then
- and a vis. aid that builds up as you go along.

I gave my own mother a couple of loose-leaf photo albums, a few years before she died, and a selection of pretty pens and things, and asked her to have a go at the large ( but not as large as it used to be, I'd already noted) pile of old photos at their home.
So what did she do? Started with all the baby photos of me - I never knew there were so many! She showed me with great pride a week later that she'd "done" X pages - I prepared to admire ... but oh dear, they were all -ME! I suggested she started on the older ones - "Oh, no, Dear. No-one is interested in them, they're all long-dead" (sound effects as of chewing carpet to subdue self and avoid thoughts of matricide). I never did get most of the really old ones pinned down, sadly.
-And I'm sure that story isn't unique.

I know you'll put your own twist on this, if you find you can use it, and I hope - especially after the help you've given me over past months - that you find you can use it! A tiny way to try to say "thank you" for your help to me, earlier.
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Re: Help needed with a talk, please
« Reply #30 on: Monday 11 May 15 19:08 BST (UK) »
ThrelfallYorky, I agree with SMG. Great plan there  :)

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Re: Help needed with a talk, please
« Reply #31 on: Monday 11 May 15 19:19 BST (UK) »
I agree with threlfalls Yorkys ideas. Something to take home with them - simple a4 sheet is very useful. One tip though - use a decent size font - minimum 14 even if you have to put less things on the page. Older people hate small print and don't use fancy coloured paper. Black ink on white or ivory cream paper, or black ink on paler yellow paper.  :) do let us know how it goes.
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Re: Help needed with a talk, please
« Reply #32 on: Monday 11 May 15 19:23 BST (UK) »
do let us know how it goes.

I haven't got a date for it yet, so don't hold your breath - it could be a while before I get back to you all.

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Re: Help needed with a talk, please
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 12 May 15 12:01 BST (UK) »
... So start preparing your vis aids now! It takes longer than you think, and remember, scale is important. If you want to do the "Basic Tree" as a powerpoint or similar, and add things to it to make your point, as you go on, that often solves the scale problem, although I often think, in this world of computer things, a good old-fashioned "stick it up and stick 'em on" approach can work really well.
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