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Rhondda help
« on: Thursday 07 May 15 15:12 BST (UK) »
In the 1911 census, there is a large house at 1 Dan Y Wern Terrace, Ystrad Rhondda which houses 9 people, all described as lodgers, and of varying ages and professions.  I'm trying to find out whether this was just a large private rental agreement or whether the house was something else?
Thoughts much appreciated!

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« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 May 15 00:56 BST (UK) »
Can you post the name and age of one of the lodgers please? So we can look at image for ourselves

1 Danywern Terrace was sold in 2011 for £85000 and is described as a terraced house -it doesn't look like a large house

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 May 15 06:06 BST (UK) »
Henry King age 34 years from Bath Somerset.

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9 rooms is quite big compared with a standard terrace house.

Sorry, do not know how much we can say about the occupants, or to look on preceding and following pages for owner etc

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 May 15 10:50 BST (UK) »
It seems other houses in the terrace had 6 rooms and were private houses
Mrs Jeffery owned 1 Danywern Terrace -she didn't live there - but it was a registered Lodging House which had 9 lodgers
Mrs Jeffery  also had Moss Cottage in the same area which also was a registered lodging house and had 22 lodgers
I don't know Mrs Jeffery's forename or where she lived

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 May 15 19:45 BST (UK) »
Page 510 for Mrs Jeffery's name and granddaughter.

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 May 15 12:57 BST (UK) »
That's really helpful, thank you.  Out of curiosity (always need to learn more!) how did you find out that it was a registered lodging house, and the owner?

I'd really like to know why the couple that I'm interested in (the tailor and his wife) suddenly turned up in a lodging house in Rhondda.  Was that a normal thing?  I can't find them in 1901 and am trying to piece together their later lives.

Thanks all, you're marvellous :)

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 May 15 07:16 BST (UK) »
Page 513  says Mrs Jeffery and 1 Danywern Terrace
Page 512 has lodgers.
Page 511 has Mrs Jeffery at Moss Cottage
Page 510 has her occupation as lodging house keeper.

Always search a few doors up and down to see who is around - on other censuses this can often be other family members, including children staying with relations on the same page, or even future husbands/wives.

If you see the other lodgers - they are from England, Ireland and Wales, so the tailor has travelled about the least distance of any of them.

Sorry, got to go, will try and remember to look for them later - could you just post what else you know about them so anyone can help you look for them?

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 May 15 17:47 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for that, it's a good tip.

I've got a bit of their back life:
James was born in Llanelly November 1840, to parents William Morgan (also a tailor) and Elizabeth (nee Bidder).  James also became a tailor and he and his wife Elizabeth (nee Williams, married 1868) moved to Neath between 1871 and 1874.  The 1891 census records them in Llantrisant but I cannot find hide nor hair of them in 1901.  Then in 1911 they turn up in this lodging house.  I have no info on them after this date, just a list of possible deaths which are quite long!

I really appreciate your help, thank you.

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 May 15 00:08 BST (UK) »
Sorry, cannot see them in 1901.

Have you checked out all the children, just in case they were (hiding, somehow) with any of them?
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