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Re: John Penaluna and family in Adelaide 1850s
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 07 May 15 14:39 BST (UK) »
Oh, wow, so he was in Adelaide as early as that! I had estimated that he might only have arrived there about 1854 or '55 at the earliest, so that's a big help, Gerry :).

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Re: John Penaluna and family in Adelaide 1850s
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 07 May 15 15:03 BST (UK) »
There were in fact three other men of the same name who also married at Wendron in the late 1840s.

And baptisms
1822 Wendron
John PENALUNA who married Ann DUNSTAN
Parents named Richard & Jane

1824 Wendron
John PENALUNA
Parents named Zacharias & Susanna

1827 Wendron
John PENALUNA
Parents named John & Elizabeth
 
If you have the age of the man arrested and convicted for stealing a pig, then it may be possible to ascertain which particular John it was?

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Re: John Penaluna and family in Adelaide 1850s
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 07 May 15 16:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Essie
I was a little dubious as to which John Penaluna the convict was at first, but it's definitely the first John, who married my Ann Dunstan, as I've now got confirmation of his wife's maiden name from the birth registrations of their children in Australia and some other sources, and the marriage details confirm John's father's name as Richard and Ann's as Benjamin. In fact, one or both of his parents, Richard and Jane Penaluna, may possibly have joined them in Adelaide: there's mention of a Jane Penaluna, relict of the late Richard Penaluna "of Redruth, Cornwall" dying at Margaret Street, North Adelaide in 1868, although I haven't been able to confirm that they're connected just yet. Redruth is not far from Porkellis and Carnkie where the family were based in the 1830s and '40s, and miners moved around a lot, so it's possible. As you may have guessed, they were all connected to the mining trade back in Cornwall, John and Richard being masons/stonecutters, and Ann's family being miners.   

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Re: John Penaluna and family in Adelaide 1850s
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 07 May 15 16:40 BST (UK) »
It appears that the reason that John got his TOL so quickly was that he was an "Exile," having already served three years in prison in Britain, (presumably Bodmin?) between arrest and transportation.


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Re: John Penaluna and family in Adelaide 1850s
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 07 May 15 18:32 BST (UK) »
The penny has dropped that, if Mary Jane's birth was registered in Burra in 1850, Ann must surely have left Britain with John, on the Bangalore, or spent some time with him just prior to his transportation, in order to have got pregnant with her in the first place? Unless Mary Jane was born prematurely, I doubt she was conceived in May 1850 when John disembarked at Moreton Bay. Were convict's wives/families were allowed to accompany them on convict ships?

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Re: John Penaluna and family in Adelaide 1850s
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 07 May 15 23:30 BST (UK) »
There is some info in the Biographical Index of South Australians. It ties in with info already provided, particularly from Rosball.
PENALUNA John parents, Richard and Jane.
Born c1823, died 14.12.1882, buried WTC.
Arrived before 1857.
Occupation, Builder
Resided at College Park
Married Anne born c1825, died 23.6.1913.
Children: Marie Jane(c1850-1931), Benjamin J. H.(1857-1912), Rebecca Amelia Helen (1860-1943), Caroline Alice Selina (1863-1934)
UK: Lee, Swift
CON: Davey, Harding, Hocking, Rule, Whinnen
AUST: McIntosh

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Re: John Penaluna and family in Adelaide 1850s
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 07 May 15 23:37 BST (UK) »
BISA entry re parents

PENALUNA Richard born c1790 died 24.10.1849 at North Adelaide. Buried WTC.
Resided at Nth Adelaide
Married Jane born c1786, died 19.6.1868.
Children Thomas (1819-1877), John (1823-1882)
UK: Lee, Swift
CON: Davey, Harding, Hocking, Rule, Whinnen
AUST: McIntosh

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Re: John Penaluna and family in Adelaide 1850s
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 07 May 15 23:47 BST (UK) »
Brother Thomas made his own way out here

PENALUNA Thomas born 1819 England, died 28.8.1877. Buried, Willaston SA.
Arrived 1854 TAYMOUTH CASTLE
Occupation, Carpenter. Resided, Gawler.
Married, (1/2) Avis born 1818 England died, 6.9.1867.
Children, John James (1844-1884), Olivia CHEEK (1845-1908), Elizabeth (c1848-)
Married, (2/2) SA Mrs Lucy GENT nee COLLENETTE, parents Thos and Martha born c1833, died Dec.1909
Children, Ada Maria (1873-1874), Francis Edward (1875-1952)
UK: Lee, Swift
CON: Davey, Harding, Hocking, Rule, Whinnen
AUST: McIntosh

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Re: John Penaluna and family in Adelaide 1850s
« Reply #17 on: Friday 08 May 15 01:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Essie
I was a little dubious as to which John Penaluna the convict was at first, but it's definitely the first John, who married my Ann Dunstan, as I've now got confirmation of his wife's maiden name from the birth registrations of their children in Australia and some other sources, and the marriage details confirm John's father's name as Richard and Ann's as Benjamin.

Those details do not prove that your John was the convict who arrived on the Bangalore.

Moreton Bay and Burra are about 2000km apart and his TOL was for the district of Moreton Bay.  You would need to check the Colonial Secretary's Correspondence to see how he may have ended up so far away and so soon after arriving.

There is still no explanation for this birth:

1847
PENLUNA, Ann
Father: John PENLUNA
Mother: Ann DUNSTAN
Registered at Adelaide
#2/21

Debra  :)