Allen Bell, b.1840/41 Crumlin, Co Antrim

[DonnaMarie1982]

Just a little extra on Dalway who dies 1721. I have been sent his burial record from the Parish records at  St Swithens in Magherafelt. On this record he is referred to at Lieut Dalway which ties nicely with the Dalway in the aforementioned penders census.

Im heading over to Belfast next week and will do some further digging.

Donna

[cdnbooklover]

Clements father, John Bell, could be either of these ones listed as being from Glenavy in the Will Index for 1843 and 1846. Anyone have the capability of looking up what the Will actually said?

Ireland, Indexes to Wills, Probate Administration, Marriage Bonds and Licences, 1591-1866

I'm hoping to pop over sometime soon when work and Covid allows. Not all the wills listed in the index have survived sadly but I will do a look up if no one else gets to it first.

Donna Marie -

If you make it to Belfast, please remember to look up my Clements Bell (b. 1793) from The Leap, Ballyvorally, Glenavy, County Antrim and his father, John Bell who may have died in 1843 or 1846 as listed in the Index to Wills, 1591-1866. If you wouldn't mind checking the baptism and marriage records for St. Aidan's COI for other children of John Bell. I'm still uncertain where John Bell fits in to all the other Bells from Aghnadarragh, Ballyvorally and Killead. Any help would be so appreciated!!

[DonnaMarie1982]

Hi!

Did you have a document number? I dont seem to be getting anything when I pop it in the search. I may not have time to do the Parish records on this occasion as Im just there for the day.

Most of the wills were destroyed unfortunately so the original may not exist. If you email Proni they may be able to help verify.


Donna

[cdnbooklover]

I'm assuming you mean for the Will? Not sure about a documentary number. It is Eire, R.B. 877, Diocese - Connor, District Registry Belfast, Bay 1A, Tray 79
I totally understand your time contraints!

[SpudKiwi]

I have tracked down a descendant of Robert Bell of Glenfield, and they are a DNA match with 6 out of 15 descendants of Allen Bell and his sister Catherine Bell.

This probably isn't enough to prove that my John Bell is the brother of Robert and Henry Bell of Glenfield, but he is definitely related to them somehow.

[Gilby]

I'm assuming you mean for the Will? Not sure about a documentary number. It is Eire, R.B. 877, Diocese - Connor, District Registry Belfast, Bay 1A, Tray 79
I totally understand your time contraints!

Where did you find that reference number?  It may refer to a location which which no longer exists.  I can't see a surviving will listed in either the 1484-1858 Index (available on Findmypast) or the PRONI Name Search:

https://apps.proni.gov.uk/ProniNames_IE/ResultDetails.aspx

The latter does have Clements Bell of Killead (1845) but note the comment at the bottom:
The original documents referred to in this index DO NOT exist. No further information, other than that recorded above, has survived.

Unfortunately the chances are it went up in smoke along with most of the other wills in 1922.

[Gilby]

Just a little extra on Dalway who dies 1721. I have been sent his burial record from the Parish records at  St Swithens in Magherafelt. On this record he is referred to at Lieut Dalway which ties nicely with the Dalway in the aforementioned penders census.

Nice!  Do you happen to have a transcript of what exactly it says?

[cdnbooklover]

Where did you find that reference number?  It may refer to a location which which no longer exists.  I can't see a surviving will listed in either the 1484-1858 Index (available on Findmypast) or the PRONI Name Search:

https://apps.proni.gov.uk/ProniNames_IE/ResultDetails.aspx

Donna Marie - Here is the web address but you are right, it says at the bottom of these wills that they did not survive. Thanks for your help.

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/447649:62077?ssrc=pt&tid=57782031&pid=32260690740

[DonnaMarie1982]

Dalway 1721 Burial Record from St.Swithens, Magherafelt Parish Register.

I -think- it says he was buried in 'ye church' but not 100% sure. The photo was sent to me so I dont have a clearer copy at present.

Donna