Allen Bell, b.1840/41 Crumlin, Co Antrim

[DonnaMarie1982]

Thank you Gilby!

Not quite sure where this one fits yet but going to work on it!

Much appreciated.

Donna

[Phil Donnelly]

Since the name “Clements Bell” crops up a few times in the Bell family of Carnaghliss, I decided to look at them with the help of 1851 census records and gravestone inscriptions (I have photos)......

Hi Gilby,
I am researching my Catholic ancestors in Carnaughliss also, specifically Edward Magee (my Gx3 grandfather) and his neighbour Philip Dean (Gx2 grandfather).
Can I ask which graveyards you found Bell family inscriptions in?
I believe that the Magee's and Dean's were mostly buried at Hannahstown.
From the Griffith's Valuation there were some 40 tenements/households in the Townland at the time.
I am wondering if St. Joseph's (Htown) was their main place of worship or were there other churches nearby?
I should mention I live in Poland so onsite visits in Antrim are not an option for me at the moment! :-)
Philip Donnelly

[Gilby]

Hi Philip,

The Bells of Carnaughliss are buried at Carmavy Graveyard, located here:
https://goo.gl/maps/cA6WKBHfbAJgEBPZ8

I visited in 2015 and photographed every headstone.  I also have a 1993 survey report.  Unfortunately there are no Magees/McGees or Deans.

I’m afraid I’ve never been to Hannahstown graveyard.

[Phil Donnelly]

Hi Philip,

The Bells of Carnaughliss are buried at Carmavy Graveyard,

Unfortunately there are no Magees/McGees or Deans.

Hi Matthew.
That's a beautiful old graveyard and apparently with a lot of interesting history attached to it.
Thanks for confirming that none of my Magee-Dean ancestors are there.

Philip

[aghadowey]

Just because there are no headstones for the family does not mean they weren't buried there.

[Phil Donnelly]

Just because there are no headstones for the family does not mean they weren't buried there.

A very good point. Known as a protestant graveyard today but I believe that Catholics were buried there in the early days.

[Joe keane]

I am researching a Margaret Bell from Glenavy Co Antrim born 20/10/1784. She Married a William Nicholls from nearby Glenead. The had a large family including one son Arthur Bell Nicholls who was a minister in the Anglican Vhurch and married Charlotte Bronte. Margaret Bell’s brother was Allen Bell, who was headmaster of a boys school in Banagher Co.Offaly. He adopted his nephew already referred to Arthur Nicholls Bell. Anyone has knowledge of this particular family please? J. Keane

[Gilby]

Hi Joe,

Welcome to Rootschat.  One of my 3x great uncles (Alexander King STEVENSON) married Mary Frances NICHOLL in 1891.  She was apparently daughter of James NICHOLL and Fanny MOLYNEAUX. 

I was told that Mary Frances was a half-sister of Arthur Bell NICHOLL.  However, some Googling suggested his father was William NICHOLL, as you mentioned.  So now I’m not sure what the connection is…

Gilby

[Joe keane]

Reply to Gilby post 648. Just a quick reply. It can be quite difficult to establish facts this far back in time. William Nicholls after his first wife Margaret Bell died, remarried and had a large family second time round. All that may be said is that there would be a half sister. I will look at my files later to see if there is any further information. I do know that Kilead cemetery was visited by people from the Bronte Society and William Nicholls grave is very visible in that graveyard. I am afraid I can be of little help