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Re: Help please with a baptism entry 1891 Wimbledon
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 17:18 BST (UK) »
avm, you would think there must be a connection wouldn't you? But I can't find the Harvey family either in the 1891 census, and it was taken only a few weeks later than these baptismal entries.

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Re: Help please with a baptism entry 1891 Wimbledon
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 17:26 BST (UK) »
Maybe the second name really is Inverity as it looks like. I can't see originals but the name does crop up in transcript as a surname on Ancestry and Scotland's People which I don't have access to. Maybe from the place name Inverarity. So the Ross and Harvey families may have gone straight back to Scotland hence why I can't find them.

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Re: Help please with a baptism entry 1891 Wimbledon
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 17:56 BST (UK) »
But I can't find the Harvey family either in the 1891 census
The HARVEY family (indexed as HAWEY) are also living at 72 Palmerston Road in 1891, in the same house as the child 'Ernest T. Ross' (see reply #3 above), but as a separate household.

1891 census
RG12/606 folio 86 page 62
72 Palmerston Road, Wimbledon
Charles Harvey, head, married, 26, Plumber, born Surrey Croydon
Ada Harvey, wife, married, 24, born Herts Elstree
Charles Harvey, son, 3 months, born Middlesex Hanworth

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Re: Help please with a baptism entry 1891 Wimbledon
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 18:05 BST (UK) »
Also 'Arnold' with the same : 2a 311, Kingston, Surrey.   Anna

This entry also gives 2 options of the middle name -

Arnold Inverty Ross    Kingston  2a 311
Arnold Laverty Ross     Kingston  2a 311

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Re: Help please with a baptism entry 1891 Wimbledon
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 18:12 BST (UK) »
This is the Harvey family in 1901 108 Russell Road Wimbledon Kingston Surrey -

Charles Harvey  36 Plummer.
Ada Harvey  34
Charles Harvey  10
Frank Bell  42 Boarder. Builders Labourer.
Adam Mitchell  26 Boarder. Carpenter.

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Re: Help please with a baptism entry 1891 Wimbledon
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 18:16 BST (UK) »
No clues with the Harvey marriage - 26 May 1890 - St Marys Merton - Looking at the marriage - Charles Frederick Harvey - 25 years - Bachelor-  Plummer - Residence Merton - Father Frederick Harvey. Whitesmith.

Ada Harvey - 23 years - Spinster - Residence Merton - Father - Jonathan Harvey - Gardener.

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Re: Help please with a baptism entry 1891 Wimbledon
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 19:49 BST (UK) »
But I can't find the Harvey family either in the 1891 census
The HARVEY family (indexed as HAWEY) are also living at 72 Palmerston Road in 1891, in the same house as the child 'Ernest T. Ross' (see reply #3 above), but as a separate household.

1891 census
RG12/606 folio 86 page 62
72 Palmerston Road, Wimbledon
Charles Harvey, head, married, 26, Plumber, born Surrey Croydon
Ada Harvey, wife, married, 24, born Herts Elstree
Charles Harvey, son, 3 months, born Middlesex Hanworth

I think this is the child you are looking for Arnold/Ernest Ross.  Looking at the 1891 census I think the 'T' is a mistranscription of the initial 'I'. It is far too great a coincidence to have two babies both 3 months old in the same house and one with the surname of Ross.  So, what became of Arnold/Ernest parents?

PS - the // should indicate a separate household.  I believe all six to be in the same household

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Re: Help please with a baptism entry 1891 Wimbledon
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 19:58 BST (UK) »
Quote from: california dreamin link=topic=719962.msg5637961#msg5637961

PS - the // should indicate a separate household.  I believe all six to be in the same household

One slash / separates households, as indicated by the schedule numbers on the left.
Two slashes // separate dwellings.

I think there is one slash / after the son Charles Harvey, though it's hard to see because it's partly overwritten by a heavier diagonal stroke.


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Re: Help please with a baptism entry 1891 Wimbledon
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 20:20 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I understood that  two strokes // denoted the beginning of a new household and one stroke / denoted the first person in a subsidiary family in a household.  But, yes point taken it is tricky to see if something is hidden under the heavier mark.