Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia

[kasden]

Wendy is it possible for me to get copies of those photos?.. I am very happy to send you copies of my photos too...I can see no room for doubt that Fanny is  on our family tree and is indeed my great grandfathers sister and therefore my grandmothers cousin 
Karen

[dean.wendy]

Hi Kasden
No problems with copies of photos to exchange. I am just waiting on some more certificates, do you have any more information regarding Fanny on your Family Tree, was there any talk at all about what happened to her, as I need to be 100% positive that they are one and the same person. There seems to be a big age gap between her brother WHH Wells, did they have the same mother and father.
Would  love to have any more info you have.
Thanks for all info so far it does sound promising, I wonder if you could post a photo of your grandmother Vera in the meantime.
wendy

[cando]

Wendy have you written down all the information given to you by other 'chatters on this thread?

There seems to be a big age gap between her brother WHH Wells, did they have the same mother and father

Wendy

Of course they had the same parents. Wm is the eldest and Fanny is one of his younger siblings. All posted on the thread.  Perhaps go back to page one and you will see where Sue posted the births.

If you are still doubtful you could purchase this certificate online [AUD21] and immediately download.  It will list the names of all the children both living and deceased, of Wm H H WELLS and Mary WERREY.

http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/home/family+history/family+history+certificates/purchase+an+uncertified+image

Death
WELLS Mary Elizabeth
Father Henry WERREY  Mother Elizabeth AURTHUR
At Port Melbourne  39 years  1891  Reg#3365

Cando

Cando

[kasden]

Hi Wendy
my pictures have long ago been pasted  into an old family album and it was handed down to me but now I am going to try to remove them without causing too much damage. I also have a picture of 3 little girls (Vera, Ruby and Hazel) similar to your 3 little boys picture.
Yes they certainly had the same parents...Fanny is listed on both her mothers and fathers death certificates too...I don't have any clue as to why Fanny went to NZ and, sadly, I don't have a picture of her brother WHH (my great g/father) either....I wish I did !...There was another brother listed on both parents death cert.. an Albert Ernest Wells...I have certs for his marriages( he married 2 sisters) and also found his death cert all with the correct parents names ect on them but I have never been able to find any record of his birth in either Vic or NSW.
Kasden
PS In my delight at looking at Fanny's pic I erroneously wrote that she was my Nan's cousin but of course she was my nan's aunt....my mothers great aunt and....my great great aunt

[kasden]

Here is what I have been able to do...they're not great quality because the pics are very old and have been badly stored but see what you think.
Karen

[kasden]

Just another bit of info Wendy...according to a newspaper obituary on Fanny's mother Mary Wells nee Werry , (accessed courtesy of Cando  thanks!) she died of Consumption....I think that her child Ada Abigail died not too very long before her and now wonder if that was from Consumption as well.

[dean.wendy]

Hi Kasden
Thanks for the photos yes Fanny and Vera are uncanningly similar.  Its a shame that there wasnt a photo of Vera's father William.  We have a very limited number of photos as this end nothing whatsoever of ones of her Australian family. So with the obituary of Mary Wells what year did she die and I wonder whether Fanny was quite young, do you think maybe that she may have gone to another home or foster home, and could explain the lack of information on our side of the family.
We have just received a marriage certificate for her marriage in New Zealand in May 1912 and she names her mother as being Mary Weesey (waiting on the marriage record to see what the written name was), I think that it is definitely Mary Werrey not Weesey.  I have three records and all have different maiden names she has put down Wells, Turner and Weesey (Werrey).  She also has named her father as being James Wells? So definitely born a Wells. Fanny also says she was born in Gippsland, Victoria.  I have looked up BDM no records there with those names that make any sense.  I would like to know what happened with her as I think it may explain all the descrepancies.  My husbands grandfather was born in January 1910 in New Zealand father named as a Wells? So I wonder who the real father is.  She names the father as being a NZer and that they were married in Australia, no record again. I think she may have beome pregnant and travelled to NZ to have the baby.  Her second child Ellen Frances was born in 1912 same year as she married. The story is that the baby died young, birth recorded but cant find the death record? I think though that we are starting to unravel her heritage. I will get those photos printed off Kasden and will be in touch as I have your contact now. Wendy.

[kasden]

Yes Wendy...I rather think that Fanny might well have been pregnant and left Victoria for NZ because of that.
The Turner name is a complete mystery to me though...no one of that name on my family tree. She was Fanny (Frances) WELLS when she was here in Australia.

Her mother died when she was quite a  young child and she was only 15 when her father died in 1902 so I can see that she might have had no one to turn to.
There are many Wells descendants from her brother W.H.H.Wells here in NSW and I dare say there are even more that I don't know about from her other siblings.
I will look forward to çhatting' about  all  of this some more with you....and now I think that I will start looking for other WELLS descendants too  ...like Fanny, my ancestors seemed to carry some stigma about their family and I know that they were not readily accepted back in those days because of their mixed heritage...yet all the Wells that I know here were the kindest, happiest and gentlest folks..including my own Nan and great aunts Hazel and Ruby who I was fortunate enough to know well.
Karen

[kasden]

wendy is there any chance of you sending those pics to me via my private email address as an attachment?..that way I can print them off.
If you don't have my email address please message me privately and I can give it to you.
Regards
Karen