Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia

[dean.wendy]

I have looked up Electoral roll in Victoria  and have found the same name in a 1912 onwards one so probably not our Frances/Fanny

I am concerned. 

I have also checked, and I cannot find Frances Turner at that address in 1912, so I am not sure why you have formed a view that the 1903 enrollment is not your lass.   To me, that 1903 sighting in Rathdown St Carlton Victoria  is
confirming your NZ 1910 sighting where Frances Wells nominates her former name as Frances TURNER and that she married in Rathdown St Carlton, in 1906  .   

Cheers,  JM

Hi JM Sorry I was referring to an earlier post name with the name quoted of Frances Margaret Turner. We had our wires crossed, I think that the Information above is a strong possibility of being our Frances.

[majm]

thanks for clearing up about the electoral roll.

I am now concerned about your question :

So maybe Turner has no significance,  and she was born a Wells. so who is the named father on my husband's grandfather's birth record. Henry Alfred Wells.

There was not and still is not any law that stops any person becoming known by a name other than the name under which their birth was registered.  And, back in the 1800s, and even in more recent times, the actual registration process in many British Colonies means that the baby does NOT have a surname, but is known by the surname of their mum.    So, if mum was a married woman,  she was likely to have become known by her husband's surname, or if mum was co-habitating without a formal marriage, mum can still have become known by his surname.   So, I don't think you should consider that there's no significance to the surname TURNER.     When Frances registered Henry's birth she provided information that is likely to simply be 'safeguarding' Henry from any claims of illegitimacy in respect of his birth.

Cheers,  JM

[cando]

1903
TURNER , Frances.
63 Rathdowne Street, Carlton
H Duties
No others of the surname

Sue

Sands & McDougall Victorian Directory 1904
CARLTON
Rathdown Street
63 PRINGLE Miss J. M. Trained nurses' home and private hospital.

Cando

[majm]

well found Cando.

Add,  Jessie Maud PRINGLE 

 

[majm]

1903 ER
Daisy THORPE 63 Rathdown St Carlton, clerk

Cheers,  JM

[Neil Todd]

There is a birth which I am not going to pay for, of a Fanny Turner in Vic Right time 84-85

ADDED

There is a marriage of a TURNER to a DAVIS AND a DAVIS to a WELLS

Just backing up a bit, apologies Cando if you have covered these.

Neil

Added and I did say Fanny TURNER not Frances TURNER.

[Dundee]

So from Fanny, she is Frances Beatrice at the time of her marriage.  Do you have this marriage certificate?

1912/2106   
WELLS Frances Beatrice    
DAVIS George    

Cando

I am a bit confused, this is a long thread and I probably haven't been paying attention.  I can't work out where the original WELLS/WERRY connection came from?  If the above is the correct marriage for 'Fanny', won't it name both her parents?

Debra 

[majm]

Yes, it should provide the information that both parties gave about their respective parents, as well as information about themselves, and it should also give names of the witnesses.

Add,  I should note that the above refers to the info I find on several NZ bdm PRINTOUTS  I understand printouts are more detailed than the actual certificate.   There's also ITMs that can be searched too, and there's some great NZ RChatters.

Cheers,  JM

[cando]

So from Fanny, she is Frances Beatrice at the time of her marriage.  Do you have this marriage certificate?

1912/2106   
WELLS Frances Beatrice    
DAVIS George    

Cando

I am a bit confused, this is a long thread and I probably haven't been paying attention.  I can't work out where the original WELLS/WERRY connection came from?  If the above is the correct marriage for 'Fanny', won't it name both her parents?

Debra 

I think dean.wendy is waiting for some certs.  Yes I agree .

Cando