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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #36 on: Friday 01 May 15 10:20 BST (UK) »
Yes that is absolutely right with information in Waikato, New Zealand, it does appear that she has dropped Beatrice, as I am not sure where that came from in the first place. But definitely Is our great grandmother.  She must have come over on a ship in the early 1900, s.  I can't however find any record of that.


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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #37 on: Friday 01 May 15 10:33 BST (UK) »
Is this her death?

1958/25951   
DAVIS Frances    74 years

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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #38 on: Friday 01 May 15 10:35 BST (UK) »
Yes that sounds right, Frances had a child in 1910, which is our grandfather, funnily enough his birth certificate has vanished, I am waiting on a copy from BDM so will be interested to see who his father is, this has just come to light over the last week as well.  Frances also had twins which were older than William George, one died at birth.  The girl Ellen which we was known as Nellie apparrantly died young.
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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #39 on: Friday 01 May 15 10:36 BST (UK) »
Yes that is definitely her death 1958, she is buried in the Te Awamutu cemetery.


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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #40 on: Friday 01 May 15 12:11 BST (UK) »
Yes that sounds right, Frances had a child in 1910, which is our grandfather, funnily enough his birth certificate has vanished, I am waiting on a copy from BDM so will be interested to see who his father is, this has just come to light over the last week as well.  Frances also had twins which were older than William George, one died at birth.  The girl Ellen which we was known as Nellie apparrantly died young.
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What are the grandfather's given names as it is possible the surname of his registration is not DAVIS?  I can't see a marriage for this couple on the indexes.  Probably wrong...often am when speculating ::)

1910/735   
WELLS    Henry Edgar    
Father Henry Alfred  Mother Frances   

I can't see twins born who would be older than Wm George.  Frances had children in 1910, 1912 and 1914 so when were the twins born.  If they were younger then their birth registration is not available.  Birth information within the last 100 years not available.

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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #41 on: Friday 01 May 15 23:30 BST (UK) »
OK this is getting complicated. So Henry Edgar which was my husband's grand father is correct, but we always new him as a davis. I have ordered the birth certificate so interesting. So the birth details that you have the father is a mystery. As far as we know the twins were in between Henry Edgar aND William.  His name was Verdon Not sure the dead twins name.  I wonder maybe with Frances name as Wells was this her birth name or was she married to Henry Alfred Wells.

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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #42 on: Friday 01 May 15 23:36 BST (UK) »
Sorry so we  believe
 The twin that survived being Verdon was between Henry Edgar and William, photos just had the  three boys in them.

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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #43 on: Friday 01 May 15 23:58 BST (UK) »
Information was often given verbally to the local registrars and it is possible that when Frances was asked the name of her 'husband' she thought of her father's given name OR the certificate may have the full name of the biological father of Edgar.  As Edgar was born before her marriage to George it would have to be registered in her name. 

I cannot find the birth of twins in the years to 1 May 1915.  If you knew where they were living at the time you could search nearby cemetery records for burials.

Birth
1910/735   
WELLS    Henry Edgar   
Father Henry Alfred  Mother Frances   

Marriage
1912/2106   
WELLS Frances Beatrice   
DAVIS George 

Births
1912/10890   
DAVIS Ellen Frances   
Father George  Mother Frances Beatrice

1914/9173   
DAVIS William George   
Father George  Mother Frances Beatrice

Unfortunately the NZ death certs/printouts don't name children of marriages.

Is this your Verdun's death, if so, born 1916.

Death
2000/23832   
DAVIS Verdun Raymond    Date of Birth 13 Feb 1916  84 Years

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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 02 May 15 00:08 BST (UK) »
AND

New Zealand Electoral Roll 
1946  Auckland/Onehunga
DAVIS Verdun Raymond  437 Queen Street Concrete Worker
DAVIS William George  437 Queen Street   Labourer

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