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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #144 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 05:24 BST (UK) »
Yes,  I agree that it was Wendy who introduced the surname WERREY.  I recall I replied on a thread on the Beginner Board and then noticed there was also a new thread on the Australia Board.  I can see where these threads were merged into one.   

Yes, I agree that Cando noticed there were other RChatters who had possible family connections and they have also kindly posted to help advance Wendy's quest.

Yes, I agree it can be confusing, and I am becoming confuddled as not only is this becoming a long thread, there seems to be contradictions along the way.

Yes, I noticed that WWII photo too.  I am interested to read Wendy's comments too.   And of course I look forward to a photo of Fanny Wells.

 
 This is the quote that I started out with.
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I am looking for our family history which has been totally forgotton over the years
Generations. My great grandmother was Fanny WELLS or Frances, she was born about 1884 in Warracknabeal,  Victoria,  Australia.   She immigrated to NZ in the early 1900, s married and had 3 boys, it was all a  big secret and no one ever talked about the family heritage. She was more than likely biracial and was quite dark skinned very elegant with fine features.
Her mother may have been Mary WERREY born about 1856, and father William Henry WELLS.  She may have had a brother called William Henry HARRIS WELLS born 1869.
I have not found any marriage records or death records for the father or anything for the possible brother.
However I have found a Marriage record for Mary Werrey marrying Hans William Jurgen  she was 33, that may not be the same person. They do have info about that on ancestry.Com.
Could anyone shed light on this mystery as we would like to know what the lost family history is where the dark skin has come from.

Yes, waiting for the official documents should be the sensible course of action.   

Cheers,  JM 
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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #145 on: Wednesday 06 May 15 08:08 BST (UK) »
I will post that photo of Fanny as soon as I get that in the next few days. Also photo did have some similarities but will not doubt get some opinion from you all, so interesting stuff.
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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #146 on: Friday 08 May 15 01:52 BST (UK) »
However I have found a Marriage record for Mary Werrey marrying Hans William Jurgen  she was 33, that may not be the same person. They do have info about that on ancestry.Com.
Could anyone shed light on this mystery as we would like to know what the lost family history is where the dark skin has come from.
  (quote is originally from Wendy's opening post on the threads,)

I can see a marriage registered as per the Vic BDM INDEX for 1890, for a Mary Jane WERRY and a Hans William JURGENS.   At a submitted tree that bride was born 1856 and died 1934 and her parents were George Werry and Elizabeth Thomas.   That same submitted tree has Mary Jane’s date of birth as 7 Oct 1856 (at Marcus Hill Victoria) and her death as 31 August 1934 (Queenscliff, Victoria) and her marriage 23 Jan 1890 (at Geelong Victoria).   Hans and Mary JURGENS children are listed at that same submitted tree, there’s seven children listed.   (I would hope the submitter has based those dates on the actual information found by that researcher on official Vic BDM documents). 

May I simply note the following, acknowledging I may well be duplicating information found elsewhere in this thread, but understanding that I have simply gathered it together in one post, as this is becoming a very long thread.

1856 Vic BDM births INDEX  Mary Jane, daughter of George Werrey and Elizabeth Thomas, #12955
1890 Vic BDM marriages INDEX  Hans Wm JURGENS and Jane Mary WERRY  #161
1906 National Archives of Australia has digitised Hans’ naturalisation (October 1906) file.  (six pages). 
1909 Electoral Roll Mary Jane and William JURGENS at Beach St, Queenscliff, VICTORIA he a fisherman, she h.d.
1934 Vic BDM deaths INDEX Mary Jane JURGENS aged 77, #16335, parents as Geo Werry and Elizth Thomas
1934 AIGS (M122) INDEX, Mary Jane Jurgens, 77, 31 Aug 1934, Queenscliff Vic.

Cheers,  JM


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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #147 on: Friday 08 May 15 04:19 BST (UK) »
Have two photos attached one is of Fanny/Frances Wells and the other is of her three boys. Left hand side is my husbands grandfather. Still waiting on certificates.


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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #148 on: Friday 08 May 15 04:22 BST (UK) »
Second photo is of Fanny,s three boys My husband grandfather is on LHS

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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #149 on: Friday 08 May 15 04:43 BST (UK) »
Hi
They are nice photos.
Fanny looks like a really bright and outgoing sort of personality.
Thanks for sharing the photos with us.
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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #150 on: Friday 08 May 15 04:51 BST (UK) »
Yes, I agree with Sue.

Wonderful smiles. 


Thank you for sharing these photos. 

Cheers,  JM
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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #151 on: Friday 08 May 15 21:36 BST (UK) »
I certainly would like to see a picture of Fanny/Frances to see if she resembles her cousins (my grand mother and great aunts)...another set of cousins located years ago showed an uncanny resemblance to them.
William Wells(Uncle Bill) WW2 ID photo , while accurate, did him little justice( those sort of pictures rarely do) he was a good looking man and I have a nice studio portrait of him taken in his uniform.
Army ID photos made everyone look like they had recently escaped from prison ;D .
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Re: Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia
« Reply #152 on: Friday 08 May 15 21:40 BST (UK) »
Blimey !!!!.....Fanny looks like my Grandmother Vera !.
Her sisters ,my great Aunts Ruby and Hazel, also had the  same facial features but were a lot plumper than nan who was small and finer boned like Fanny is. She wore her hair the same way too.
I nearly cried when I saw the picture of Fanny she was so much like nan  ;D..
How wonderful !
Kasden