Fanny WELLS. Family history missing for biracial great grandmother, Australia

[cando]

There is a birth which I am not going to pay for, of a Fanny Turner in Vic Right time 84-85

ADDED

There is a marriage of a TURNER to a DAVIS AND a DAVIS to a WELLS

Just backing up a bit, apologies Cando if you have covered these.

Neil

Added and I did say Fanny TURNER not Frances TURNER.

In Aus or NZ Neil?

Cando

[cando]

Neil there is no birth for a Fanny TURNER 1884-5 in Victoria.  The only birth between 1883 and 1886 for a F*  TURNER in Vic is the one I posted who died the same year as her birth.

If the events occurred as written on the 1910 birth certificate, it would have been a marriage for a F* TURNER to Henry Arthur WELLS in Vic and then the 1912 to George DAVIS in NZ.  I cannot find a TURNER/WELLS marriage in 1906 on my disc.  I doubt it happened.

Cando

[majm]

Here's a live link to NZ researching

https://www.genealogy.org.nz/NZ_Research_243.aspx

"Certificates
You will probably have a copy of your own birth certificate and perhaps certificates of other family members, but it is important to remember that a certified copy of an entry, (certificate), does not contain all the information recorded in the register. An electronic printout of the original entry usually contains more information than a certificate."

and

"Intention To Marry Notices
When a couple intended to marry, one partner was required to complete an Intention to Marry Notice for the District Registrar. At the end of each quarter of the year a return of these notices was sent to the Registrar General. The reason these returns are useful is because they contain information not recorded in the marriage entry such as the `length of residence’ for both bride and groom. This refers to residence in the district, but it may also be a guide to length of residence in the country. .......... Archives New Zealand holds these returns from 1856 up to 1956. ........The Intentions to Marry held at Archives New Zealand, Wellington have been card indexed under both groom’s name and bride’s maiden name. From 1880-1920, the Intentions to Marry can be accessed providing that the date of marriage is known. As an addition to this type of search for marriages the NZSG has produced a CD of all marriages with the spouses names matched for 1856 to 1956. This is a great help to find that elusive maiden name"

Cheers,  JM

[dean.wendy]

So from Fanny, she is Frances Beatrice at the time of her marriage.  Do you have this marriage certificate?

1912/2106   
WELLS Frances Beatrice    
DAVIS George    

Cando

I am a bit confused, this is a long thread and I probably haven't been paying attention.  I can't work out where the original WELLS/WERRY connection came from?  If the above is the correct marriage for 'Fanny', won't it name both her parents?

Debra 

I think dean.wendy is waiting for some certs.  Yes I agree .

Cando

Yes it is a bit confusing to say the least, so I am at present waiting for a marriage certificate for Frances and George Davis, so will be interesting to see who she names as parents? Will post as soon as I have it. So the name Werrey was brought up by Kasden, s side with possibility of Fanny being sister to her great grandfather William HH Wells, so her parents was where the Werrey came from. We need to wait now for that cert to come through I think to confirm those details.
Wendy

[majm]

so may I ask if you ordered a printout ?

Cheers JM

[dean.wendy]

Yes I did order a printout rather than a certificate, we will wait and see.

[cando]

So where did you source this information?

We are looking for our family heritage of our great grandmother, her name was Fanny WELLS, or Frances, she was born in 1884 in Victoria, Australia, and I think the place she was born was Warracknabeal.  We have absolutely nothing else to go on as she immigrated to New Zealand and so her history was never talked about.  I have researched through websites and have  come up with  more detail but need some sort of confirmation.  I think her mother was called  Mary WERREY and may have been born around 1856, Fanny,s father could have been William Henry Wells. She may have had a brother William Henry HARRIS WELLS  born  in 1869. I have searched marriage records for her parents but have found nothing.  She was very dark skinned with fine features so was biracial, when she came to NZ she had three boys they were quite dark but they never talked about their heritage so no one knows where the dark blood comes from

dean.wendy

So the name Werrey was brought up by Kasden, s side with possibility of Fanny being sister to her great grandfather William HH Wells, so her parents was where the Werrey came from.

deanwendy


I think the name WERREY was initally posted by you and researched by chatters. I actually discovered that that Kasden was a member of rootschat and placed a message on her current thread on war medals about Wm H H WELLS Snr grandson who died in WW2.

Let's hope the marriage info arrives soon

Personally I think the 1910 birth cert info is far from accurate.

Cando

[dean.wendy]

Yes  I think next move is to wait till that marriage cert to George Davis arrives as well as her death cert. I didn't think for a moment it was going to be easy to track the heritage otherwise I would expect that another of the family members may have done it.
Thanks for all you help everyone so far much appreciated see what turns up next.

[cando]

I think we would all like to see that photo of Fanny/Frances when you receive it

What did you think of the photo of Wm H H, the grandson.  I posted a link the page on his digitised WW2 service file earlier in the thread.

Cando