Llewelin's from around landeilofawr

[madyliz]

Hi
i am looking for any info on John Llewelin born possibly in Brin Llwyn Yr Haf, Cwmberach Isaf, Llandeilofawr.

wife not known, can't find a marriage

 5 children:
 Llewelin John,
Mary John,
 David John b abt 1731 d 1781 (my 5th grt grandfather)
 Rees b abt 1733,
Gwenllian b abt 1736.

David John Llewelin m Elizabeth Evans in 1764 in parish of landeilofawr and they had 4 children.

Also wondering if they are related to any Llewelyns in the area

any info gratefully recieved
thanks 

[keyboard86]

Hi here are a couple of baptisms of the children shown above:-

Rees Lewellin 16th January 1734  Llandeilo Fawr Father John Mother Mary
Gwenllian Lewellin 21st October 1736 Llandeilo Fawr Father John Mother Mary
Keyboard86

[madyliz]

thank you for these baptisms really helpful. Still looking for the father John though any info would be grateful
Liz

[PHILCYMRO]

Cwmberach Isaf is near to Hen Bethel chapel on Heol Felin Garnant.

[keyboard86]

Hi again, I am just wondering why I cannot locate the baptism of David (John) b c 1731 your direct ancestor? 
Also, why do the first 3 have a mention of middle name John, and not the 2 I located?
Also where did the information come from that they had 5 children if you did not have the mothers name?
Keyboard86

[madyliz]

Hi
thank you so far for all the information very grateful.

I have the information of the children from another member on ancestry who is also researching this family, he has given me the info I have so far, but I am trying to verify the details so am remaining open minded. I am hoping to speak to him again this week to see if he can verify anything with source information.
I have found the marriage record of David John to Elizabeth Evans myself.

I have also wondered about the name John as a middle name. I am remaining open minded as to whether these children may be from another parent or even that John Llewelin may have remarried?

I am hoping also to visit the carmarthen record office in the next month to look up info but trying to gain as much as I can before the visit as it is some distance away.

It looks like the mothers name may be Mary from the info you have found so am going to look into this as well.

thank you again for all your help everyone it is much apreciated

regards Liz 

[Ayashi]

Might it be that the first children were patronymic (had the surname John after the father) but the last two were christened in the Anglicised way with his "surname"? The children might not even have used the surname they were christened under, it could have been whim of the vicar.

[madyliz]

Hadn,t thought of that, will have a look thanks a lot 

[E Davies]

Hello,
My mother's family (Llewellyns) are from Llandeilo and Llandybie parishes. (The spelling of the surname varies during the 18th and 19th centuries). My 4x grandfather was Evan Llewelyn (1763-1835) and I am descended form his son David. Another son of Evan's was Rees Llewelyn (1795-1832) who lived at Nantycreigle, and leased Llwyn yr Haf and Abernant farms on the mountain above Glanaman. One of Rees's sons was John Llewelyn (about 1832-1891) and by his time the family had leased more land in the area. One of the farms in the area was Bryn Llwyn yr Haf (now known as Cwmberach Isaf), where Llewelyns still farm.

I have not fully researched this line of Llewelyns, but I hope that the above scant information is of some interest. Mr Howell Llewelyn of Cwmberach passed away recently and is buried at Hen Fethel, as are many of the Llewelyns in my ancestry.

Regards,

Eurig Llewellyn davies