Looking for mother of Stanley John Leonard from Albury NSW

[Peonyau]

Yep that's her...thanks. Just shows that when searching names including name variations is essential.
 

[Peonyau]

Sue, 1215 Malvern Rd. Reply 33.
Its the same house. numbering changed. It belonged to Granny Mont. and passed to her eldest son, Bert who leased it to Eva. Bert and Eva were very close and both helped each other during the depression.
L.

[cando]

Is there only one Edward LEONARD who only married one person, Ellen CORBETT and had a relationship with Elizabeth Ellen IRELAND aka Ellen and Helen?

Birth
6859/1865
LEONARD Edward G
Father Peter Mother Margaret
District Braidwood

NSW Police Gazette   19 Oct 1881
Coonamble – A warrant has been issued by the Coonamble Bench for the arrest of Edward LEONARD, charged with absconding from his indented apprenticeship with Octavius Langree, Licensed Surveyor, of Coonamble, on or about the 8th October, 1880.  Leonard is about 16 years of age.  May have gone to Mudgee or Yass.  An apprentice from the “Vernon”.

Marriage
6139/1886
LEONARD Edward
CORBETT Ellen
District Mudgee

Birth
9943/1868
CORBETT Ellen
Father James  Mother Bridget
District Gundagai

Second marriage after Edward's death in Qld in 1929.
10701/1934
DICK William
LEONARD Ellen
District Auburn

Death
13924/1946
DICK Ellen
Father James  Mother Bridget
District Waverley

Births - and the LENARD births possibly registered by Helen/Ellen IRELAND.

18240/1887 LEONARD Stella M  Edward   Ellen    Blayney

2159/1888   LENARD  Dudley   Edward  Helen    Sydney
Death
3797/1888  LENARD Dudley  Edward  Ellen  Glebe  Died 31 Jul 1888

NSW
Police Gazette 18 Oct 1888
Penrith – A warrant has been issued by the Penrith Bench for the for the arrest of Edward Leonard, charged with unlawfully deserting his wife, Helen Leonard, at Penrith, since the 14th April last, leaving her without means of support.  He is 24 years of age, 6 feet high, dark-brown hair, sandy moustache, beard, and whiskers, blue eyes; straw hat; a carpenter, but likely to go shearing or clearing in the bush; wears a gold signet and two silver rings on little finger of right hand; a native of Mudgee.  Supposed to be working at Mr Farlong’s woolsheds at Dubbo.

Birth
10743/1889 LENARD  Stanley   Edward  Helen    Albury   Born 8 Sep 1889 but Edward deserted Ellen on 14 Apr 1888.  So who was the father?

Other births  and deaths for the children of Edward LEONARD and Ellen CORBETT already on the thread.

Note that the name LENARD/LENNARD spelling only relates to the birth registration of Elizabeth Ellen's children and her own death.  Is it possible she was illiterate?

Gaol Description and Entrance Books  26 Apr 1904
Edward LEONARD
Born 1867  Aruelen
Carpenter, Roman Catholic, Read and Write  5’9”  157 lbs.
Hair light brown to grey.  Blue Eyes 
Scars – Upper left arm, palm left hand, sinew palm of left hand contracted.
Nose turned up.  9 moles on chest.  One about right nipple.
4 moles on back.
Ex Vernon Boy
Where and when - Cootamunda  13 Apr 1904  Receiving  2 years with hard labour.

Photo attached.

VERNON nautical training ship
In 1866, the Industrial Schools Act was introduced to control 'wayward' children. This included youths found destitute, wandering the streets, begging, abandoned or committing a crime. The act also allowed for the governor to declare 'any ship or vessel or any building or place together with any yards, enclosures or lands attached there, to be a 'Public Industrial School.'
Under this wide-ranging act, the former merchant sailing ship Vernon was purchased in January 1867. It was refitted and declared a Public Industrial School in May 1867. The ship was the embodiment of the principles of the Society for the Relief of Destitute Children. In 1853 the Society had stated its aims: to provide relief for children found in a degraded and neglected state, to place them in protection under good influences, and to train them in the habits of honest industry.
The Vernon was initially moored between the Government Domain and Garden Island. Admissions commenced on 20 May 1867 and by July the following year, 113 boys had been admitted, with some as young as three being sent to the ship. On board, the boys were given moral training, nautical and industrial training and instruction, and elementary schooling.
In 1871 the Vernon was moved and moored off Cockatoo Island. The island provided a small plot for the boys to have a vegetable patch and for use as a drill ground and recreational area.

Death
1929/C2209
LEONARD Edward
Father Peter  Mother Margaret BERRYMAN

Buried at Drayton and Toowoomba cemetery
LEONARD Edward  66 years
Religion Roman Catholic
Date of death  14 May 1929  Date of burial  15 May 1929

Australian Electoral Roll
1917, 1919, 1922, 1929  Qld  Darling Downs-Esk
LEONARD Edward  Coominya   Labourer

Cando

[Dundee]

Cando, you are such a trooper 

I was thinking the same thing.  It was the 'carpenter' and 'blue eyes' that I first noticed and wondered if he was the same person playing away from home.

Debra 

[majm]

Well done Cando. 

Cheers,  JM

[cando]

Thanks folks   HOWEVER if I was researching this family I would consider purchasing that 1889 birth certificate.  It would interesting to see the details.

Surgery to my hand hasn't stopped me typing but difficult to do housework ...and not allowed to get the dressing wet.  At least some feeling has returned to my thumb, first, second and half third finger.  Now waiting for surgery to the left one and then I'll sleep at night .

Cando

[Peonyau]

Have purchased. Waiting for delivery  by email today hopefully.
Amazing research Cando
Elizabeth Ellen was very literate instructed my mother on correct pronunciation when she was  a child.
There may have been shame attached to story and cover up occurring early on. Remember Ellen worked for the Bailleau family a very upstanding land holder in the Victorian country side. Stanley wasnt illiterate either I have letters he wrote from France in beautiful handwriting, sent to Eva - who was very bright too...Stanley experiments with electricity..carrying out experiments with Eva.
Let me absorb the info about Edward Leonard and get Stanleys birth cert.
  L.

[Peonyau]

Cando, Hope Hand is recovering as expected......You're a Champ!!!

[majm]

Birth
10743/1889 LENARD  Stanley   Edward  Helen    Albury   Born 8 Sep 1889 but Edward deserted Ellen on 14 Apr 1888.  So who was the father?

Likely this birth was registered at Albury Court House.  Likely the Deputy BDM registrar was a part time position there.  Likely the admin clerical staff at Albury Court House would have attended to the registration.    So, until WWI the birth registration process was basically conducted across the counter by the clerk asking questions (so verbal questions) and the informant answering those questions (so verbal answers).   

Until the late 1960s, NSW did not actually require a SURNAME for the baby.  The civil birth registration will not actually show a surname for that baby.   It will of course show the THEN surname for that baby's mother.   It is that surname that was used by the volunteers who put together the NSW BDM index in the 1930s.     

So, yes, that birth certificate is a significant document in this quest. 

The clerk likely asked the informant (likely to be mum to the baby),   What is the name of the baby's mum (so if a married woman, her surname at that time was likely to match her husband's even if they were not currently co-habitating) ?  What was your maiden name?   What is your husband's name?   What is your husband's occupation?   Where was the baby born?  And what are you calling/naming your baby?   Where were you married? How old were you when you married?  What are the names/ages of your older children? and notice that there's NO question asked of a married woman asking for the name of the person who fathered the child.   (the question was not asked of single women either)

Cheers,  JM