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Re: Elizabeth Crouse...a bit of a mystery
« Reply #9 on: Monday 20 April 15 13:09 BST (UK) »
Rosie,  that's such a nice suggestion him not wanting to remarry but wouldn't it of been frowned upon having children and not been married? Unless they lied and said they were.

Emma,  I doubt it would have been frowned upon.  If it is them they probably just pretended they were married. I have an unmarried couple in my tree around this time.  It needs further investigation though as the death I found would make her very young when she married
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Re: Elizabeth Crouse...a bit of a mystery
« Reply #10 on: Monday 20 April 15 13:12 BST (UK) »

So I ordered their sons (my grandfather) birth certificate but the father has a line through it, making me think he was illegitimate. 


Does it name the mother as Elizabeth Quinn, formerly Crouse?

It's odd that the father is not named, if they were holding themselves out as married - but it does bring up the possibility that she'd been married to a Mr Quinn but that the child's natural father was someone other than him.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Elizabeth Crouse...a bit of a mystery
« Reply #11 on: Monday 20 April 15 13:23 BST (UK) »

I don't know if my grandfather is still alive, he left the marriage in 1954 when my dad was born.


There's a possible remarriage for him in Sunderland in 1956 which you may want to have a look at.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Elizabeth Crouse...a bit of a mystery
« Reply #12 on: Monday 20 April 15 14:06 BST (UK) »
It won't let me attach the bc and mc.

The Bc says Elizabeth Quinn formally Crouse (no occupation). E quinn mother 3 New Grey Street Sunderland

I will take a look at that marriage. Thanks


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Re: Elizabeth Crouse...a bit of a mystery
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 21 April 15 08:21 BST (UK) »
Findmypast have Merchant Seaman cards, there is a Stephen Quinn born 1877 Kinsale, Cork.There is nt much more info on the image but there is a photo.
Noot sure where your Stephen may have been born or when but looks to be the only one in the right timeframe.
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Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
Clements,Coles,Mc Donagh,Rock

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